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Can you point to sources that answer any of these questions: * What mechanism does this racial separation take? * What sort of evidence shows that skin color

Can you point to sources that answer any of these questions: * What mechanism does this racial separation take? * What sort of evidence shows that skin color or other ethnic identifiers in genetics are the thing that causes tribal separation vs them just serving as a simple proxy to more complicated factors? * What explanations of exigent factors are there... for example why are there black and hispanic republicans, or white members of traditionally "black gangs". How do these less common (but not rare) group membership issues override the claimed genetic selection? * What genetic factors explain the fracturing of groups within groups of seemingly genetically similar (at least on a racial/ethinc level) people? The claim made here doesn't actually answer any of those questions - I'm not sure the validity of "separation of races is coded in our genes" makes sense given the scenarios highlighted in my questions.

pessimizer 13y ago
Why bother with research when everything can be explained by the natural tendencies of the blood? Research just perpetuates racism by allowing for the possibility that it may exist.
- sophacles 13y ago
  I don't understand your comment, can you expand?
hedgew 13y ago
>What mechanism does this racial separation take? It's not racial separation. It's all attraction in general. Like attracts like. Hackers tend to like other hackers. Race is simply one factor that affects us. Being aware of this can help you avoid racism. If you don't recognize that your brain tends to prefer people who are similar to you, you're more likely to accidentally discriminate others. >What sort of evidence shows that skin color or other ethnic identifiers in genetics are the thing that causes tribal separation vs them just serving as a simple proxy to more complicated factors? The real extent of its significance is impossible to say, but based on these maps, it's obvious that such separation happens. The lack of any legislation in the US that requires people of certain race to segregate means that it has to be caused by other factors. >What explanations of exigent factors are there... for example why are there black and hispanic republicans, or white members of traditionally "black gangs". How do these less common (but not rare) group membership issues override the claimed genetic selection? The fact that there are black republicans is only evidence that race does not limit people into any certain categories. >What genetic factors explain the fracturing of groups within groups of seemingly genetically similar (at least on a racial/ethinc level) people? Why do brothers and sisters fight? Even if you're from the same family, you're not immune to conflict. Inarguably, family members are on average closer to each other than non-family members. I really doubt race is such a significant factor that it would make us immune to conflict. If you really get down to it, we're all basically identical and we still fight all the time. That's the real stupidity. If you want to learn more, you can start with evolutionary psychology. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_psychology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_psychology We really don't know understand ourselves that well yet, but it's obvious that we discriminate each other. It's important to understand why, so we can become better.
- seszett 13y ago
  >It's all attraction in general. Like attracts like. Hackers tend to like other hackers. What study did you find backing this? Actually, I have already read and heard the contrary, for exemple here is what one of the numerous articles on this subject[0] says: >Heterosexual men and women with dissimilar genes are more likely to get married than people with a similar genetic heritage. So it seems, on the contrary, that people genetically tend to want to live with people different from them. Except when they have a psychological aversion to them, in which case I believe we call that "xenophobia", which is usually synonym with "racism". [0] http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-secret-to-finding-true-love-may-lie-in-genetic-differences-1690411.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-secret-to-find...

pessimizer 13y ago

Why bother with research when everything can be explained by the natural tendencies of the blood? Research just perpetuates racism by allowing for the possibility that it may exist.

sophacles 13y ago
I don't understand your comment, can you expand?

hedgew 13y ago

>What mechanism does this racial separation take? It's not racial separation. It's all attraction in general. Like attracts like. Hackers tend to like other hackers. Race is simply one factor that affects us. Being aware of this can help you avoid racism. If you don't recognize that your brain tends to prefer people who are similar to you, you're more likely to accidentally discriminate others. >What sort of evidence shows that skin color or other ethnic identifiers in genetics are the thing that causes tribal separation vs them just serving as a simple proxy to more complicated factors? The real extent of its significance is impossible to say, but based on these maps, it's obvious that such separation happens. The lack of any legislation in the US that requires people of certain race to segregate means that it has to be caused by other factors. >What explanations of exigent factors are there... for example why are there black and hispanic republicans, or white members of traditionally "black gangs". How do these less common (but not rare) group membership issues override the claimed genetic selection? The fact that there are black republicans is only evidence that race does not limit people into any certain categories. >What genetic factors explain the fracturing of groups within groups of seemingly genetically similar (at least on a racial/ethinc level) people? Why do brothers and sisters fight? Even if you're from the same family, you're not immune to conflict. Inarguably, family members are on average closer to each other than non-family members. I really doubt race is such a significant factor that it would make us immune to conflict. If you really get down to it, we're all basically identical and we still fight all the time. That's the real stupidity. If you want to learn more, you can start with evolutionary psychology. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_psychology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_psychology We really don't know understand ourselves that well yet, but it's obvious that we discriminate each other. It's important to understand why, so we can become better.

seszett 13y ago
>It's all attraction in general. Like attracts like. Hackers tend to like other hackers. What study did you find backing this? Actually, I have already read and heard the contrary, for exemple here is what one of the numerous articles on this subject[0] says: >Heterosexual men and women with dissimilar genes are more likely to get married than people with a similar genetic heritage. So it seems, on the contrary, that people genetically tend to want to live with people different from them. Except when they have a psychological aversion to them, in which case I believe we call that "xenophobia", which is usually synonym with "racism". [0] http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-secret-to-finding-true-love-may-lie-in-genetic-differences-1690411.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-secret-to-find...