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Honestly this has never really been a secret, but it is good to see this get some proper attention. With any luck Americans will be more wary of statements lik

by jlgreco 13y ago

Honestly this has never really been a secret, but it is good to see this get some proper attention. With any luck Americans will be more wary of statements like Bush's infamous "'Why do they hate us?' ... They hate our freedom".

anologwintermut 13y ago
While the "they hate our freedom" is a completely bullshit line, in the case of Al Qaeda who Bush was referring to, they probably would have supported primarily Sunni Iraq gassing primarily Shia Iran. Our policies in Egypt and (ironically) putting troops in Saudi Arabia to fight Saddam, on the other hand, did motivate Al Qaeda.
- jlgreco 13y ago
  Hmm, I thought the "they hate our freedom" line was from the "Axis of Evil" speech. Looks like I remembered wrong.
throwaway_yy2Di 13y ago
"U.S. says Iraq used nerve gas against Iran" -- March 30, 1984 http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=cOEbAAAAIBAJ&pg=3398,8079675 http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=cOEbAAAAIBAJ&pg=3398,80... "Iraq May Get U.S. Aid To Prevent Iran Victory" -- May 21, 1984 http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=xcQ_AAAAIBAJ&pg=2897,2695491 http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=xcQ_AAAAIBAJ&pg=2897,26... Not much of a secret indeed.
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GauntletWizard 13y ago
One of the primary tenets of Al Qaeda is to impose Sharia law on the land. They believe that "man-made" laws are unnatural, and go against god's will; They would see the entirety of the world under their strict, revisionist, regressive, incredibly broken system of law. They literally do "hate our freedom". Every time I hear someone repeat that line as a joke, it makes me mad how incredibly out of touch they are. Literally; Al Qaeda, and an substantial proportion of all muslims everywhere, not only hate your freedom, but would kill you just for espousing it.
- eliasmacpherson 13y ago
  I'd like to see some numbers there, opinion polls to back up your utter nonsense.
- aaronbrethorst 13y ago
  Ah, it's you again. Do you actually know any Muslims? I've never met one who "hated [my] freedom."
- nwp90 13y ago
  "Literally; Al Qaeda, and an substantial proportion of all muslims everywhere" Non-sequitur. No matter how true it may be for Al Qaeda, for which people may feel they have seen evidence, you provide absolutely no backing for your assertion that a "substantial proportion of all muslims everywhere" agree with what you assert Al Qaeda feel.

by jlgreco 13y ago

anologwintermut 13y ago

While the "they hate our freedom" is a completely bullshit line, in the case of Al Qaeda who Bush was referring to, they probably would have supported primarily Sunni Iraq gassing primarily Shia Iran. Our policies in Egypt and (ironically) putting troops in Saudi Arabia to fight Saddam, on the other hand, did motivate Al Qaeda.

jlgreco 13y ago
Hmm, I thought the "they hate our freedom" line was from the "Axis of Evil" speech. Looks like I remembered wrong.

throwaway_yy2Di 13y ago

"U.S. says Iraq used nerve gas against Iran" -- March 30, 1984 http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=cOEbAAAAIBAJ&pg=3398,8079675 http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=cOEbAAAAIBAJ&pg=3398,80... "Iraq May Get U.S. Aid To Prevent Iran Victory" -- May 21, 1984 http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=xcQ_AAAAIBAJ&pg=2897,2695491 http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=xcQ_AAAAIBAJ&pg=2897,26... Not much of a secret indeed.

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GauntletWizard 13y ago

One of the primary tenets of Al Qaeda is to impose Sharia law on the land. They believe that "man-made" laws are unnatural, and go against god's will; They would see the entirety of the world under their strict, revisionist, regressive, incredibly broken system of law. They literally do "hate our freedom". Every time I hear someone repeat that line as a joke, it makes me mad how incredibly out of touch they are. Literally; Al Qaeda, and an substantial proportion of all muslims everywhere, not only hate your freedom, but would kill you just for espousing it.

eliasmacpherson 13y ago
I'd like to see some numbers there, opinion polls to back up your utter nonsense.
aaronbrethorst 13y ago
Ah, it's you again. Do you actually know any Muslims? I've never met one who "hated [my] freedom."
nwp90 13y ago
"Literally; Al Qaeda, and an substantial proportion of all muslims everywhere" Non-sequitur. No matter how true it may be for Al Qaeda, for which people may feel they have seen evidence, you provide absolutely no backing for your assertion that a "substantial proportion of all muslims everywhere" agree with what you assert Al Qaeda feel.