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Let's make a better example: You drive in to your car mechanic. You get a full on paint job, new windows, new wheels, new axles, the works. The car is shiny an
by Justsignedup 13y ago
Let's make a better example:
You drive in to your car mechanic. You get a full on paint job, new windows, new wheels, new axles, the works. The car is shiny and new.
You come into the mechanic's garrage and say "can i have my car please" the mechanic says "your bill is XXXXXX". You respond with "nono i just need my cara, I'll pay you later...
And then when the mechanic doesn't return the car you complain "WHAT AN UNPROFESSIONAL JERK! PART OF DOING BUSINESS IS WAITING FOR ME TO PAY HIM!"
Analogy to health care:
A poor man with no money to spare is stabbed by a rusty nail. He will get an infection and die unless he gets massive antibiotics.
The hospital turns him down.
The reason we made LAWS preventing hospitals from doing this is because our healthcare is a piece of fucking shit. Most other countries the hospital would get paid in full by the government. Because health care != web design or car repairs!
- balloot 13y agoWhy are you assuming the client didn't pay? You know absolutely nothing except that the designer ripped down the website and replaced it with a nastygram. Given that information, I'm certainly not quick to rule out the possibility that designer may be the asshole here. Or in your mechanic example, maybe that mechanic quoted me $500, and then I show up and he asks for $1500 instead. I don't want to pay $1000 extra, so he threatens to spray paint my car with "balloot is a cheapskate" and park it out front of his shop. How do you have any idea this isn't what onemine.com isn't doing to the grocery store?
- nknighthb 13y ago"The client didn't pay" is the basic assumption necessary for most of this conversation to make any sense. If you want to discuss whether or not this particular client really did or did not pay, that's fine, but don't chastise others for having a different conversation than you are.
- mikeash 13y agoI love how often this kind of thing pops up in discussions like these. "Maybe he's lying!" Sure. But you don't get to just pick an arbitrary lie out of thin air that supports whatever point you'd like to make. If you think somebody is unreliable, then you need to remove their testimony from your pool of facts and re-evaluate. If that testimony is the only source of facts for the subject at hand, then you no longer have anything to talk about. You cannot both simultaneously say we can't believe this guy and carry out any kind of commentary on the event, unless you've discovered some other info on it and haven't told anyone else about it.
- Justsignedup 13y agoWell put. We'd love to hear from the client. Unfortunately this is a common enough occurrence that I am giving the designer the benefit of a doubt.
- Justsignedup 13y agoPoint is: Not enough information available. Also Pay your developers / designers.