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Introducing Mozilla Firefox optimized for Yahoo

14 points by applecore 13y ago

claudius 13y ago
Curious. I get redirected to [0] on Debian/Opera, with the following content: Entschuldigen Sie, Mozilla Firefox für Yahoo! optimiert ist nicht für Ihr System verfügbar. Die für Yahoo! optimierte Mozilla Firefox Version ist nur für folgende Betriebssysteme verfügbar: […] Linux (paraphrasing: Apologies, the version of Mozilla Firefox optimised for Yahoo! is not available for your system. It is only available for the following operating systems: […] Linux […]). On the other hand, the UK version of that website, [1], doesn’t mention Linux at all: Sorry, Mozilla Firefox optimised for Yahoo! is not available for your system. The Yahoo! optimised version of Mozilla Firefox is only available for the following operating systems: Windows XP SP2 Windows Server 2003 Windows Vista Windows 7 Windows 8 Mac OS X 10.6 or later See the System Requirements for more details on hardware and software requirements and recommendations. So, two questions: - Why is the German version apparently available for Linux and the English one isn’t? - Why don’t you allow me to download the version for OS A from OS B? OS A might not have a browser yet, after all. - Why are you still using browser sniffing like that in 2013? [0] http://downloads.yahoo.com/de/firefox/blocked http://downloads.yahoo.com/de/firefox/blocked [1] http://downloads.yahoo.com/uk/firefox/blocked http://downloads.yahoo.com/uk/firefox/blocked
- asdfaoeu 13y ago
  Anyone capable of downloading a browser for a different OS from what they are running doesn't want to download a browser "optimized" by Yahoo.
- seszett 13y ago
  The French version[0] mentions Linux. It still says it's not available on my system though, so I wonder how they determined my OS. I thought the "X11; Linux x86_64" string in my user-agent was obvious enough. [0] http://downloads.yahoo.com/fr/firefox/blocked http://downloads.yahoo.com/fr/firefox/blocked
- FoeNyx 13y ago
  > So, two questions 3 in fact :) But I share 3 questions. While trying to access it with _Firefox_ on Linux, I also get redirected to a "blocked" page in French which does mention Linux. But the "system requirement" page does not mention Linux, only Mac and Windows. This page does say the minimal requirements where provided by Mozilla, but Mozilla does provide a Linux version, so that's strange. Maybe Linux was "just" a translation error or they decided not to support it in the end and forgot to edit the translations ... btw ironically August 25th is the birthday of the first newsgroup post about Linux. Happy Birthday Linux ! So what's this "Optimized for Yahoo" version ?
diminish 13y ago
Do they mean optimized, literally? or just toolbars, default search engine etc? and also how does it circumvent google search engine revenue deal with mozilla?
ksec 13y ago
Is this new? I though they had this for a very long time.
dz0ny 13y ago
"Sorry, Mozilla Firefox optimized for Yahoo! is not available for your system." << This is where they already failed.
- marijn 13y ago
  A nice touch is that the list of supported systems includes "Linux" (which I'm on), but I still get this message. My navigator.platform is "Linux x86_64", not sure how they are misinterpreting that.
  - jdjb 13y ago
    Have they removed Linux as being supported? I can't find it on the supported systems page.
    - marijn 13y ago
      Linux doesn't appear in the English version of that page, but it does in the German one that they are serving me (ignoring accept-lang, geolocating my IP, I guess)
charlesray 13y ago
Partnering with Yahoo (or increasing their partnership) is a potential long-term revenue stream for Mozilla if Google decides to back out of their deal (which, afaik, they show no sign of doing), but I'm not sure bundling the Yahoo toolbar with what would be a good browser is the way to go about that.
shocks 13y ago
You are currently using Firefox® version 26 Click the download button if you wish to install Firefox 23 o.o
lucb1e 13y ago
> Sorry, Mozilla Firefox optimized for Yahoo! is not available for your system. You can compile Firefox for Linux easily, so this shows just how much adware they added.
chaselee 13y ago
Doesn't like Linux > http://screencloud.net/v/xtbW http://screencloud.net/v/xtbW
Nux 13y ago
WTF! Why is this on the HN first page?! "Yahoo optimised" = Firefox + yahoo toolbar + yahoo search engine default + other yahoo crap. And anyway, I like my Firefox "unoptimised", thank you very much. http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest/ http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/late...
- mh- 13y ago
  I like my Firefox "unoptimised", thank you very much. well, that's one way to be satisfied with modern browsers.
epmatsw 13y ago
It's interesting that they chose to release this with FF 23. In a few weeks, FF 24 will be out which is an ESR. Seems like that would be an easier path to take for something like this since they'd have to deal with a major update every 10 months instead of medium updates every 6 weeks.
orblivion 13y ago
System Requirements: Windows Operating Systems Windows XP SP2, Server 2003, Vista, 7 or 8 Minimum Hardware Pentium 4 or newer processor that supports SSE2 512MB of RAM 200MB of hard drive space Mac Operating Systems Mac OS X 10.6 or later Minimum Hardware Macintosh computer with an Intel x86 processor 512 MB of RAM 200 MB hard drive space Sounds like a relic
kintamanimatt 13y ago
I feel nostalgia for IE6 toolbars now. This was the wrong way to integrate Yahoo into Firefox. Firefox should have done it as an "option" rather than Yahoo doing the reverse. They successfully made this version of Firefox feel like a crapware toolbar analog that will sniff my browsing history and add no value to my browsing experience or life. Google, on the other hand, successfully did what Yahoo is trying to do. They released what was perceived to be a new browser: Google Chrome. Few had heard of Chromium before Google massaged the codebase it into Google Chrome, but everybody's heard of Firefox. Yahoo should have developed the Super Awesome Browser 9000 (even if they used a previously unknown browser as a starting point -- Opera doesn't count) instead of just slapping some branding on one of the most popular and famous browsers. Perhaps they also thought piggy backing on the Firefox branding was going to help them; it won't. I predict this version of Firefox will be adopted by almost nobody, primarily because nobody really cares about Yahoo; their search just isn't up to snuff and their relevance is slowly fading. Yahoo is on borrowed time and they're executing poorly. Oh, and fuck you Yahoo for not making your crapware available to Linux users.
dombili 13y ago
I guess they didn't get the memo about the new Firefox logo.

14 points by applecore 13y ago

Curious. I get redirected to [0] on Debian/Opera, with the following content: Entschuldigen Sie, Mozilla Firefox für Yahoo! optimiert ist nicht für Ihr System verfügbar. Die für Yahoo! optimierte Mozilla Firefox Version ist nur für folgende Betriebssysteme verfügbar: […] Linux (paraphrasing: Apologies, the version of Mozilla Firefox optimised for Yahoo! is not available for your system. It is only available for the following operating systems: […] Linux […]). On the other hand, the UK version of that website, [1], doesn’t mention Linux at all: Sorry, Mozilla Firefox optimised for Yahoo! is not available for your system. The Yahoo! optimised version of Mozilla Firefox is only available for the following operating systems: Windows XP SP2 Windows Server 2003 Windows Vista Windows 7 Windows 8 Mac OS X 10.6 or later See the System Requirements for more details on hardware and software requirements and recommendations. So, two questions: - Why is the German version apparently available for Linux and the English one isn’t? - Why don’t you allow me to download the version for OS A from OS B? OS A might not have a browser yet, after all. - Why are you still using browser sniffing like that in 2013? [0] http://downloads.yahoo.com/de/firefox/blocked http://downloads.yahoo.com/de/firefox/blocked [1] http://downloads.yahoo.com/uk/firefox/blocked http://downloads.yahoo.com/uk/firefox/blocked

asdfaoeu 13y ago
Anyone capable of downloading a browser for a different OS from what they are running doesn't want to download a browser "optimized" by Yahoo.
seszett 13y ago
The French version[0] mentions Linux. It still says it's not available on my system though, so I wonder how they determined my OS. I thought the "X11; Linux x86_64" string in my user-agent was obvious enough. [0] http://downloads.yahoo.com/fr/firefox/blocked http://downloads.yahoo.com/fr/firefox/blocked
FoeNyx 13y ago
> So, two questions 3 in fact :) But I share 3 questions. While trying to access it with _Firefox_ on Linux, I also get redirected to a "blocked" page in French which does mention Linux. But the "system requirement" page does not mention Linux, only Mac and Windows. This page does say the minimal requirements where provided by Mozilla, but Mozilla does provide a Linux version, so that's strange. Maybe Linux was "just" a translation error or they decided not to support it in the end and forgot to edit the translations ... btw ironically August 25th is the birthday of the first newsgroup post about Linux. Happy Birthday Linux ! So what's this "Optimized for Yahoo" version ?

diminish 13y ago

Do they mean optimized, literally? or just toolbars, default search engine etc? and also how does it circumvent google search engine revenue deal with mozilla?

ksec 13y ago

Is this new? I though they had this for a very long time.

dz0ny 13y ago

"Sorry, Mozilla Firefox optimized for Yahoo! is not available for your system." << This is where they already failed.

marijn 13y ago
A nice touch is that the list of supported systems includes "Linux" (which I'm on), but I still get this message. My navigator.platform is "Linux x86_64", not sure how they are misinterpreting that.
- jdjb 13y ago
  Have they removed Linux as being supported? I can't find it on the supported systems page.
  - marijn 13y ago
    Linux doesn't appear in the English version of that page, but it does in the German one that they are serving me (ignoring accept-lang, geolocating my IP, I guess)

charlesray 13y ago

Partnering with Yahoo (or increasing their partnership) is a potential long-term revenue stream for Mozilla if Google decides to back out of their deal (which, afaik, they show no sign of doing), but I'm not sure bundling the Yahoo toolbar with what would be a good browser is the way to go about that.

shocks 13y ago

You are currently using Firefox® version 26 Click the download button if you wish to install Firefox 23 o.o

lucb1e 13y ago

> Sorry, Mozilla Firefox optimized for Yahoo! is not available for your system. You can compile Firefox for Linux easily, so this shows just how much adware they added.

chaselee 13y ago

Doesn't like Linux > http://screencloud.net/v/xtbW http://screencloud.net/v/xtbW

Nux 13y ago

WTF! Why is this on the HN first page?! "Yahoo optimised" = Firefox + yahoo toolbar + yahoo search engine default + other yahoo crap. And anyway, I like my Firefox "unoptimised", thank you very much. http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest/ http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/late...

mh- 13y ago
I like my Firefox "unoptimised", thank you very much. well, that's one way to be satisfied with modern browsers.

epmatsw 13y ago

It's interesting that they chose to release this with FF 23. In a few weeks, FF 24 will be out which is an ESR. Seems like that would be an easier path to take for something like this since they'd have to deal with a major update every 10 months instead of medium updates every 6 weeks.

orblivion 13y ago

System Requirements: Windows Operating Systems Windows XP SP2, Server 2003, Vista, 7 or 8 Minimum Hardware Pentium 4 or newer processor that supports SSE2 512MB of RAM 200MB of hard drive space Mac Operating Systems Mac OS X 10.6 or later Minimum Hardware Macintosh computer with an Intel x86 processor 512 MB of RAM 200 MB hard drive space Sounds like a relic

kintamanimatt 13y ago

I feel nostalgia for IE6 toolbars now. This was the wrong way to integrate Yahoo into Firefox. Firefox should have done it as an "option" rather than Yahoo doing the reverse. They successfully made this version of Firefox feel like a crapware toolbar analog that will sniff my browsing history and add no value to my browsing experience or life. Google, on the other hand, successfully did what Yahoo is trying to do. They released what was perceived to be a new browser: Google Chrome. Few had heard of Chromium before Google massaged the codebase it into Google Chrome, but everybody's heard of Firefox. Yahoo should have developed the Super Awesome Browser 9000 (even if they used a previously unknown browser as a starting point -- Opera doesn't count) instead of just slapping some branding on one of the most popular and famous browsers. Perhaps they also thought piggy backing on the Firefox branding was going to help them; it won't. I predict this version of Firefox will be adopted by almost nobody, primarily because nobody really cares about Yahoo; their search just isn't up to snuff and their relevance is slowly fading. Yahoo is on borrowed time and they're executing poorly. Oh, and fuck you Yahoo for not making your crapware available to Linux users.

dombili 13y ago

I guess they didn't get the memo about the new Firefox logo.