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It's always annoyed and confused me that GitHub Enterprise exists. GitHub is founded on the premise that open source is a good idea...yet for self-hosted git ma
by tsm 13y ago
It's always annoyed and confused me that GitHub Enterprise exists. GitHub is founded on the premise that open source is a good idea...yet for self-hosted git management the freedom-friendly solution is...GitLab.
So good for GitLab for existing at all, and congratulations to the team for releasing v. 6.0! May there be many more!
- nXqd 13y agostill, the github is not open itself. And we cannot expect that since they have to earn money to keep running that amazing open source platform. Gitlab is great btw. Congrats
- sytse 13y agoThanks nXqd! (I'm a GitLab.com co-founder)
- conductor 13y agoActually... This is a quote from the article: "GitLab 6.0 will be the first release that will also be available in an Enterprise Edition, for more information please see the GitLab.com Blog [1]" [1] - http://www.gitlab.com/2013/08/22/introducing-gitlab-6-0-enterprise-edition/ http://www.gitlab.com/2013/08/22/introducing-gitlab-6-0-ente...
- cbhl 13y ago"Enterprise Edition" for LDAP groups sync? I remember working on LDAP integration for a SaaS product four or five years ago... I'd say that is exactly the sort of feature I'd expect to delineate a consumer/enterprise edition on. Plus, base LDAP support is still in the community edition. Sounds reasonable to me.
- sytse 13y agoGitLab.com co-founder here. Thanks for you comment, it means a lot to us that you find this reasonable, we put a lot of thought into it.
- kylec 13y agoThe cost breakdown: * GitHub Enterprise: $5000 per 20 users per year, effectively $416.67 per 20 users per month. (You have to pay yearly though) * GitLab Enterprise: $39.80 per 20 users per month, or $398 per 20 users per year * GitLab Community: Free Basically, GL Enterprise is roughly 1/12 the cost of GitHub when purchased yearly, and 1/10 the cost if paying month-to-month (which GitHub doesn't offer). Interestingly, GitLab is taking a page from GitHub's book and requiring customers to purchase user packs in groups of 20.
- teraflop 13y agoAlso, it's worth mentioning that GitLab Enterprise is open source. It'll be interesting to see how well that model works out for them.
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- darkstar999 13y agoI'm confused. What's wrong with GitHub selling a product for enterprise? (HUB not LAB)
- tsm 13y agoGitHub takes advantage of open source ideals to build its community...but doesn't open source its own software to give back to the community. It seems a little hypocritical. I'd feel much better if GitHub had a useful open source core (like GitLab, or Chromium, or AOSP, or darwin, or...) and then had an Enterprise Edition that had enterprisey features (GitLab's LDAP integration is a great example) and professional support and such.
- benesch 13y agoThat's false. GitHub open sources almost all non-essential pieces of their codebase. [0] Notably, grit [1] (git bindings for ruby), gollum [2] (wiki on git), and hubot [3] (chat robot). To ask a company to open source their core, revenue-generating product is a little bit much. The reason Chrome can be open source is because Google Search isn't. [0] https://github.com/github https://github.com/github [1] https://github.com/gollum/gollum https://github.com/gollum/gollum [2] https://github.com/github/hubot https://github.com/github/hubot
- pearjuice 13y agoGoogle Chrome is not open source, you mean Chromium. Chrome is closed source and could contain all sorts of different code found in the Chromium project. Chrome is the Google branded version of Chromium. It is a minor difference but makes a major impact regarding your freedom.
- kec 13y agoIs providing a service to the community not payment enough?
- MetaCosm 13y agoI just wish GitHub Enterprise was a better product. When we did the 45 day trial (18 months ago) -- it was just awful, our repo got corrupted, no root access, had to talk to Github support for them to write us a "script". ugh.
- banachtarski 13y agoThis is just silly.
- tsm 13y agoMind adding to the discussion by explaining how?
- banachtarski 13y agoGitHub is a profit generating entity. I don't see how you can fault any business for trying to make revenue by providing a service. Either they charge, or they show ads like Sourceforge and Wikipedia. Bring morals into a world of capitalism is silly; everything good must pay the bills to be sustainable.
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- skore 13y ago> or they show ads like [...] Wikipedia What? > Bring morals into a world of capitalism is silly No, actually it's not silly. It's the only thing that keeps this world from falling apart.
- GhotiFish 13y agoOk. I see where you're coming from there, but understand that at least in the US, companies have a legal obligation to be unscrupulous money making machines. Nothing, not one thing, can come between the bottom line.
- skore 13y ago> at least in the US, companies have a legal obligation to be unscrupulous money making machines. Nothing, not one thing, can come between the bottom line Might want to talk to Amazon about that[0][1]. Also: nope[2]. Seriously - If you claim that you have to be an immoral asshole corporation driven by nothing but monetary success, you can find all sorts of reasons for it and the more money you have, the more you can invest in making it seem like you're "just following orders". But the main reason is that you're an sociopath and care more about money than you care about people. And yes, those people are destroying the fabric of our society proportional to the amount of money and power they wield. [0] http://www.dailyfinance.com/2013/01/29/amazon-earnings-strong-sales-low-profits/ http://www.dailyfinance.com/2013/01/29/amazon-earnings-stron... [1] Most likely what you're thinking about is 'shareholder value', the "worlds dumbest idea" http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2013/06/26/the-origin-of-the-worlds-dumbest-idea-milton-friedman/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2013/06/26/the-orig... [2] http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/8146/are-u-s-companies-legally-obligated-to-maximize-profits-for-shareholders http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/8146/are-u-s-com...
- eddieroger 13y agoMost of what that money buys you is the security and managerial comfort of SLAs and enterprise support. Community Editions scare the enterprise because when something breaks, there's no one on the hook to fix it (forgetting, of course, countless newsgroups, mailing lists and chat rooms usually dedicated to the topic). When GHE fails for some reason, your helpdesk can rest assured that within 4-24 hours (depending on SLA) you will have a fix that no one in the company is responsible for.
- sytse 13y agoGitLab.com co-founder here. We have a subscriptions that has enterprise support for GitLab so we are on the hook to fix it.