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Hey. I'm an Australian Mining Engineer, (co-incidentally employed by Rio Tinto, although obviously I'm no spokesperson and have no idea what the higher-ups are

Hey. I'm an Australian Mining Engineer, (co-incidentally employed by Rio Tinto, although obviously I'm no spokesperson and have no idea what the higher-ups are doing, or even blokes on other sites). While I don't have any knowledge of the autonomous truck project, pensions & workman's comp have basically nothing to do with it. The mining industry in Australia is on the tail end of the biggest expansion in living memory, and it turns out it is near-impossible for love or money to move Australians out into the desert to work in mines. It was not unreasonable to have trucks parked up because there simply was no human to drive them, and the salaries for a truck driver were in the $150,000+ Australian dollars, plus food, lodging and plane flights. This doesn't represent a scary cost for a mining company - it represents a scary lack of worker supply. A parked truck is an unhappy truck. In addition, we have very strict OH&S laws and the site mangers can be raked over the coals for the wierdest things. Eg, if I saw a light vehicle parked on non-level ground without wheel chocks, it would probably be escalated to the site Manager (not a pit supevisor, not the Manager of Mining, but the person responsible for the entire site) and someone being sacked would be an option on the table. Getting rid of the humans is a huge benefit from a safety perspective, which we take very, very seriously. Finally, automated trucks will provably do the right thing, all the time, without getting fatigued or taking breaks. Humans just cannot compete from a utilising-the-very-expensive-asset-properly point of view.

joonix 13y ago
Everything I heard indicates this is not true. A hand at the mines is a dime a dozen. Engineers are perhaps another story. But the myth that you can show up at the mines and make $150k was busted a while ago, especially now as the broader economy suffers and unemployment continues to rise.
mcguire 13y ago
"Finally, automated trucks will provably do the right thing, all the time,..." [[Citation Needed]]
- hhandoko 13y ago
  What the GP comment meant that the robots won't deviate from the parameters. Contrast this with a human operator, who are instructed to drive at specific speeds at each road section. Perhaps due to fatigue , overconfidence (e.g. I drove on this road 1000's times before, I know what I am doing), or other factors, the driver did not slow down enough and subsequently accidents occur.

joonix 13y ago

Everything I heard indicates this is not true. A hand at the mines is a dime a dozen. Engineers are perhaps another story. But the myth that you can show up at the mines and make $150k was busted a while ago, especially now as the broader economy suffers and unemployment continues to rise.

mcguire 13y ago

"Finally, automated trucks will provably do the right thing, all the time,..." [[Citation Needed]]

hhandoko 13y ago
What the GP comment meant that the robots won't deviate from the parameters. Contrast this with a human operator, who are instructed to drive at specific speeds at each road section. Perhaps due to fatigue , overconfidence (e.g. I drove on this road 1000's times before, I know what I am doing), or other factors, the driver did not slow down enough and subsequently accidents occur.