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I might go mirrorless if and when Canon releases a full-frame mirrorless camera. Sony is apparently releasing one next year.

by nawitus 13y ago

abirkill 13y ago
I think a lot of pros will add a crop-frame mirrorless camera to their kit when Canon release their speed booster (and a decent EF-M body, which will probably be at the same time). The ability to use existing full-frame lenses at the same focal lengths on a mirrorless camera, and gain a stop of light-gathering ability, will be a big draw.
- justincormack 13y ago
  Not really, they will still be much bigger due to retrofocus than a dedicated mirrorless lens. Lens redesign is needed really to make the most of it.
  - abirkill 13y ago
    I'm not suggesting that this will be the final evolution, merely a tipping point that I suspect will see Canon's mirrorless offerings take off. Pros are going to be very reluctant to start buying several thousand dollars of lenses in a new and unproven (longevity-wise) lens mount, but may well buy a $1000 camera if an adapter lets it accept all of their existing lenses, keep the same focal length, and also turn their 16-35mm f/2.8 into a 16-35mm f/1.8.
chrisbolt 13y ago
Do you mean the RX1? http://duncandavidson.com/gear/sony/rx1/ http://duncandavidson.com/gear/sony/rx1/ I have one, and it's pretty impressive.
- gigq 13y ago
  I also have an RX1 and it really is a fantastic camera. I bet the OP was talking about the rumored full frame interchangeable lens camera (possibly a full frame NEX) that Sony is supposed to be announcing soon.
- jseliger 13y ago
  No, he's referencing the long-rumored "NEX Full Frame": http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-full-frame-mirrorless-from-sony-coming-in-almost-exactly-one-year-24-or-30-32-megapixel http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-full-frame-mirrorless-fro...
georgemcbay 13y ago
I actually just "went" (but not completely) mirrorless when the EOS M got an autofocus speed upgrade and a price cut to clearance levels (I paid $350 for the body and kit lens). I am so glad I bought this camera. I still use my T1i DSLR with "big glass" at places where I need reach (I could get a lens adapter for the EOS M, but if I'm rocking a 100-400mm lens on the camera, the smallness of the mirrorless is insignificant, and I'll generally want an optical viewfinder) or faster autofocus and I plan on buying a 70D real soon to replace the T1i, but the EOS M comes with me everywhere. And the image quality is soooo good for a go-everywhere camera (the sensor is the same size as the one in my DSLR, and even better in a few minor respects since it is basically the T4i sensor)... Image quality is leaps and bounds above the Canon S100 which was my previous attempt at such a take-everywhere solution. Here's a shot I would never have gotten if the EOS M wasn't small enough that I can carry it everywhere (keep in mind this is just handheld using a bridge railing for stabilization, no tripod). I got this on the way to the parking lot after meeting some friends at the last Culture & Cocktails event at the San Diego Art Museum: http://www.gmcbay.com/pic/bpark.jpg http://www.gmcbay.com/pic/bpark.jpg There are a few more examples accessible via directory listing here, all from the EOS M for which I've since bought two more lenses (it still all fits in a very small Lowepro Lowepro Compact ILC Courier 70 bag even with the three lenses): http://www.gmcbay.com/pic/ http://www.gmcbay.com/pic/
cschmidt 13y ago
For me going from a D700 to an OM-D, the biggest benefit was the much smaller size. And much of that size was in the lenses, not the bodies. The m4/3 lenses are so wonderfully small, after hauling around a 24-70/2.8 for so long. I think you'd be missing much of the benefit.

I might go mirrorless if and when Canon releases a full-frame mirrorless camera. Sony is apparently releasing one next year.

by nawitus 13y ago

I might go mirrorless if and when Canon releases a full-frame mirrorless camera. Sony is apparently releasing one next year.

abirkill 13y ago

I think a lot of pros will add a crop-frame mirrorless camera to their kit when Canon release their speed booster (and a decent EF-M body, which will probably be at the same time). The ability to use existing full-frame lenses at the same focal lengths on a mirrorless camera, and gain a stop of light-gathering ability, will be a big draw.

justincormack 13y ago
Not really, they will still be much bigger due to retrofocus than a dedicated mirrorless lens. Lens redesign is needed really to make the most of it.
- abirkill 13y ago
  I'm not suggesting that this will be the final evolution, merely a tipping point that I suspect will see Canon's mirrorless offerings take off. Pros are going to be very reluctant to start buying several thousand dollars of lenses in a new and unproven (longevity-wise) lens mount, but may well buy a $1000 camera if an adapter lets it accept all of their existing lenses, keep the same focal length, and also turn their 16-35mm f/2.8 into a 16-35mm f/1.8.

chrisbolt 13y ago

Do you mean the RX1? http://duncandavidson.com/gear/sony/rx1/ http://duncandavidson.com/gear/sony/rx1/ I have one, and it's pretty impressive.

gigq 13y ago
I also have an RX1 and it really is a fantastic camera. I bet the OP was talking about the rumored full frame interchangeable lens camera (possibly a full frame NEX) that Sony is supposed to be announcing soon.
jseliger 13y ago
No, he's referencing the long-rumored "NEX Full Frame": http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-full-frame-mirrorless-from-sony-coming-in-almost-exactly-one-year-24-or-30-32-megapixel http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-full-frame-mirrorless-fro...

georgemcbay 13y ago

I actually just "went" (but not completely) mirrorless when the EOS M got an autofocus speed upgrade and a price cut to clearance levels (I paid $350 for the body and kit lens). I am so glad I bought this camera. I still use my T1i DSLR with "big glass" at places where I need reach (I could get a lens adapter for the EOS M, but if I'm rocking a 100-400mm lens on the camera, the smallness of the mirrorless is insignificant, and I'll generally want an optical viewfinder) or faster autofocus and I plan on buying a 70D real soon to replace the T1i, but the EOS M comes with me everywhere. And the image quality is soooo good for a go-everywhere camera (the sensor is the same size as the one in my DSLR, and even better in a few minor respects since it is basically the T4i sensor)... Image quality is leaps and bounds above the Canon S100 which was my previous attempt at such a take-everywhere solution. Here's a shot I would never have gotten if the EOS M wasn't small enough that I can carry it everywhere (keep in mind this is just handheld using a bridge railing for stabilization, no tripod). I got this on the way to the parking lot after meeting some friends at the last Culture & Cocktails event at the San Diego Art Museum: http://www.gmcbay.com/pic/bpark.jpg http://www.gmcbay.com/pic/bpark.jpg There are a few more examples accessible via directory listing here, all from the EOS M for which I've since bought two more lenses (it still all fits in a very small Lowepro Lowepro Compact ILC Courier 70 bag even with the three lenses): http://www.gmcbay.com/pic/ http://www.gmcbay.com/pic/

cschmidt 13y ago

For me going from a D700 to an OM-D, the biggest benefit was the much smaller size. And much of that size was in the lenses, not the bodies. The m4/3 lenses are so wonderfully small, after hauling around a 24-70/2.8 for so long. I think you'd be missing much of the benefit.