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I prefer rails specifically because the "hosting/running situation" for Rails is so FAR superior to that of PHP. $ git push heroku master ...done.

albertojgomez 13y ago
you know you can do the same with php, right? $ git push fortrabbit master ...done
tomjen3 13y ago
Not really. That only works with one host, whereas PHP works with just about any 5 dollar/month host in the world.
- pekk 13y ago
  For loose definitions of 'works'
  - tomjen3 13y ago
    No. It works as well in one place as in any other.
jonahx 13y ago
I don't really want to stand up for php, but this just isn't true. "git push heroku master" comes at a steep price. PHP hosting is, in general, ubiquitous, cheap, and incredibly easy. You can get comparable pricing for ruby hosting, but you'll be doing some server setup yourself.
- davorb 13y ago
  > You can get comparable pricing for ruby hosting Might I ask where?
  - jonahx 13y ago
    eg: https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing
- mehwoot 13y ago
  "git push heroku master" comes at a steep price. Um... what? 1 dyno is free on heroku. You host it for nothing. Am I missing something?
  - coldtea 13y ago
    Yes, that 1 dyno is not enough, and there are tons of other limitations (db use, etc).
  - jonahx 13y ago
    yeah you're missing something, unless you're just running something low priority like a personal blog: Although an app may not require the resources of more than a single dyno, we recommend running at least 2 dynos for a production app. One reason for this is that dynos restart roughly every 24 hours, and dyno redundancy helps ensure that you don't experience excessive queueing or dropped requests while a single dyno restarts. Additionally, dynos and the processes running on them can occasionally crash, and having another dyno helps ensure that you don't have downtime while that dyno recovers. Finally, single web dynos sleep after an hour of inactivity, and having a second dyno means that all dynos will stay awake.[1] [1] https://blog.heroku.com/archives/2013/4/26/introducing_production_check https://blog.heroku.com/archives/2013/4/26/introducing_produ...
gchucky 13y ago
Not to be overly pedantic, but Heroku does also support PHP.[1] [1] https://github.com/heroku/heroku-buildpack-php https://github.com/heroku/heroku-buildpack-php

albertojgomez 13y ago

you know you can do the same with php, right? $ git push fortrabbit master ...done

tomjen3 13y ago

Not really. That only works with one host, whereas PHP works with just about any 5 dollar/month host in the world.

pekk 13y ago
For loose definitions of 'works'
- tomjen3 13y ago
  No. It works as well in one place as in any other.

jonahx 13y ago

I don't really want to stand up for php, but this just isn't true. "git push heroku master" comes at a steep price. PHP hosting is, in general, ubiquitous, cheap, and incredibly easy. You can get comparable pricing for ruby hosting, but you'll be doing some server setup yourself.

davorb 13y ago
> You can get comparable pricing for ruby hosting Might I ask where?
- jonahx 13y ago
  eg: https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing
mehwoot 13y ago
"git push heroku master" comes at a steep price. Um... what? 1 dyno is free on heroku. You host it for nothing. Am I missing something?
- coldtea 13y ago
  Yes, that 1 dyno is not enough, and there are tons of other limitations (db use, etc).
- jonahx 13y ago
  yeah you're missing something, unless you're just running something low priority like a personal blog: Although an app may not require the resources of more than a single dyno, we recommend running at least 2 dynos for a production app. One reason for this is that dynos restart roughly every 24 hours, and dyno redundancy helps ensure that you don't experience excessive queueing or dropped requests while a single dyno restarts. Additionally, dynos and the processes running on them can occasionally crash, and having another dyno helps ensure that you don't have downtime while that dyno recovers. Finally, single web dynos sleep after an hour of inactivity, and having a second dyno means that all dynos will stay awake.[1] [1] https://blog.heroku.com/archives/2013/4/26/introducing_production_check https://blog.heroku.com/archives/2013/4/26/introducing_produ...

gchucky 13y ago

Not to be overly pedantic, but Heroku does also support PHP.[1] [1] https://github.com/heroku/heroku-buildpack-php https://github.com/heroku/heroku-buildpack-php