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Why is farming superior to properly managed wild fisheries? Over fishing is the problem. I don't see farming as the obvious solution. Farmed fish are loaded wit

Why is farming superior to properly managed wild fisheries? Over fishing is the problem. I don't see farming as the obvious solution. Farmed fish are loaded with toxins, as I understand it. The pollution is also a problem. Even farming cattle in the way we do it is not really sustainable. There is a strong case to be made that hunted venison should be a staple meat at grocery stores. There is also a strong argument that a lot of farmland should be reverted to bison range and hunted for sale.

hcarvalhoalves 13y ago
> Why is farming superior to properly managed wild fisheries? Over fishing is the problem. ... and over fishing occurs because management of wild stock is clearly not working. Plus, there's a lot of waste in the chain that is diminished on fish farming. > Farmed fish are loaded with toxins, as I understand it. The pollution is also a problem. The toxins in farmed fish, mainly in salmon, are just a reflex of the toxins everywhere in the habitat (pesticides, untreated sewage), bad methods (fish fed with chicken waste) and lack of regulation. It's a non-issue where they don't crap on their own food and do it right (Chilean salmon, for instance). > Even farming cattle in the way we do it is not really sustainable. I agree. But the sad truth is that beef and bacon sells, and the planet would be devoid of mammals by tomorrow morning if we switched overnight to hunting game. Human population only got to the current size exactly because we raise cattle (among other things). On top of that, there are ways to farm native species inside their own habitat, which helps bringing the population levels back to normal, like in your Buffalo example.
- a8da6b0c91d 13y ago
  > management of wild stock is clearly not working So fix it. If the USN blew a few ships in treaty violation out of the water things would change quickly.
  - hcarvalhoalves 13y ago
    You can find projections on the web so I'm not going to link here, but even if fishing got 100% regulated we would be past the capacity for the next years (other things factored in, as coastal pollution, desertification of corals and global warming).

hcarvalhoalves 13y ago

> Why is farming superior to properly managed wild fisheries? Over fishing is the problem. ... and over fishing occurs because management of wild stock is clearly not working. Plus, there's a lot of waste in the chain that is diminished on fish farming. > Farmed fish are loaded with toxins, as I understand it. The pollution is also a problem. The toxins in farmed fish, mainly in salmon, are just a reflex of the toxins everywhere in the habitat (pesticides, untreated sewage), bad methods (fish fed with chicken waste) and lack of regulation. It's a non-issue where they don't crap on their own food and do it right (Chilean salmon, for instance). > Even farming cattle in the way we do it is not really sustainable. I agree. But the sad truth is that beef and bacon sells, and the planet would be devoid of mammals by tomorrow morning if we switched overnight to hunting game. Human population only got to the current size exactly because we raise cattle (among other things). On top of that, there are ways to farm native species inside their own habitat, which helps bringing the population levels back to normal, like in your Buffalo example.

a8da6b0c91d 13y ago
> management of wild stock is clearly not working So fix it. If the USN blew a few ships in treaty violation out of the water things would change quickly.
- hcarvalhoalves 13y ago
  You can find projections on the web so I'm not going to link here, but even if fishing got 100% regulated we would be past the capacity for the next years (other things factored in, as coastal pollution, desertification of corals and global warming).