I don't with me. A common workflow ended up being for me was write the complex query in SQL (because it wasn't obvious to get going in the ORM), and then spend

I don't with me. A common workflow ended up being for me was write the complex query in SQL (because it wasn't obvious to get going in the ORM), and then spend a long time reverse engineer it to get it to work in the Django ORM. Lots of joins, sub-selects, ordering, grabbing the latest single record from time sorted in the middle, etc. In the end, I had to think about how to use the ORM, and then I still needed to know the SQL for optimizations...