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This is extremely scary if proved to be true. Imagine if the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) were able to get their hands on or direct their wa

This is extremely scary if proved to be true. Imagine if the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) were able to get their hands on or direct their war on bittorrent with these tools. Actually, the RIAA has a listing on its website [1] of various news clippings, like, "Pirates beware: Kim Dotcom's Mega isn't the safe haven he says it is" and "Kim Dotcom, Pirate King". It would be interesting to find out how Dotcom came to be entered into a NSA system as a target. [1] http://www.riaa.com/news_room.php?content_selector=riaa-news-mega-upload-developing-news http://www.riaa.com/news_room.php?content_selector=riaa-news...

grecy 13y ago
> It would be interesting to find out how Dotcom came to be entered into a NSA system as a target. He's not in the United States. Everyone outside the United States is a target.
- jlgreco 13y ago
  Dotcom hosts things. Terrorists need things hosted. We investigate terrorists. Therefore we investigate Dotcom. Or something like that.
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    - jlgreco 13y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6266253 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6266253 Does it really sound like Kim is my "hero"?
- junto 13y ago
  See my comment above. A little bit of history as to why Kimble is a marked man: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6266309 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6266309
  - eli 13y ago
    You talked about the secret service, which is quite different from the NSA.
    - junto 13y ago
      You really believe that one doesn't need the other? Bottom line. You get a file. You name has a little mark against it. He is one of the selectors, I guarantee it.
- discostrings 13y ago
  This is in the context of New Zealand (but it does raise many questions about international intelligence sharing and the nature of these systems). New Zealand has already admitted that their targeting of Kim Dotcom was against their laws. Their solution for the future? They passed a law this week that removes the exemption from domestic spying for New Zealand citizens and residents[1]. Once the system's in place, it just takes a stroke of the pen... [1] http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-21/new-zealand-passes-spy-bill/4903500 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-21/new-zealand-passes-spy...
  - marssaxman 13y ago
    This is disappointing. New Zealand seems to be a pretty sensible country and I'd hoped for better.
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    - foxylad 13y ago
      Most New Zealanders hoped for better. Depending on the poll, somewhere between 60% and 80% of us opposed the GCSB bill. A little background - our prime minister John Key is a very pragmatic politician, carefully avoiding contentious issues to remain popular and keep his party in power. His actions over the GCSB bill are very out of character - he's pulled in a lot of favours, twisted a lot of arms and spent a lot of hard-earned political capital to get it passed (just). If he loses the next election (still very much up in the air), passing this bill will be largely to blame. There is a very bad smell about this. He's already changed labour laws purely for Warner Brothers (they threatened to move the Hobbit to eastern Europe), and I'm fairly sure that the GCSB bill is mostly about fixing the legal disaster that the Kim Dotcom exercise has degenerated into. The MAFIAA is a remarkably apt name, given their tactics.
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grecy 13y ago

> It would be interesting to find out how Dotcom came to be entered into a NSA system as a target. He's not in the United States. Everyone outside the United States is a target.

jlgreco 13y ago
Dotcom hosts things. Terrorists need things hosted. We investigate terrorists. Therefore we investigate Dotcom. Or something like that.
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  - jlgreco 13y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6266253 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6266253 Does it really sound like Kim is my "hero"?
junto 13y ago
See my comment above. A little bit of history as to why Kimble is a marked man: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6266309 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6266309
- eli 13y ago
  You talked about the secret service, which is quite different from the NSA.
  - junto 13y ago
    You really believe that one doesn't need the other? Bottom line. You get a file. You name has a little mark against it. He is one of the selectors, I guarantee it.
discostrings 13y ago
This is in the context of New Zealand (but it does raise many questions about international intelligence sharing and the nature of these systems). New Zealand has already admitted that their targeting of Kim Dotcom was against their laws. Their solution for the future? They passed a law this week that removes the exemption from domestic spying for New Zealand citizens and residents[1]. Once the system's in place, it just takes a stroke of the pen... [1] http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-21/new-zealand-passes-spy-bill/4903500 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-21/new-zealand-passes-spy...
- marssaxman 13y ago
  This is disappointing. New Zealand seems to be a pretty sensible country and I'd hoped for better.
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  - foxylad 13y ago
    Most New Zealanders hoped for better. Depending on the poll, somewhere between 60% and 80% of us opposed the GCSB bill. A little background - our prime minister John Key is a very pragmatic politician, carefully avoiding contentious issues to remain popular and keep his party in power. His actions over the GCSB bill are very out of character - he's pulled in a lot of favours, twisted a lot of arms and spent a lot of hard-earned political capital to get it passed (just). If he loses the next election (still very much up in the air), passing this bill will be largely to blame. There is a very bad smell about this. He's already changed labour laws purely for Warner Brothers (they threatened to move the Hobbit to eastern Europe), and I'm fairly sure that the GCSB bill is mostly about fixing the legal disaster that the Kim Dotcom exercise has degenerated into. The MAFIAA is a remarkably apt name, given their tactics.
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