> Windows 7 and 8 were the first mobile OS that didn't completely rip off Apple Is everyone here too young to remember Palm, Windows CE, Pocket PC, et al? We

> Windows 7 and 8 were the first mobile OS that didn't completely rip off Apple Is everyone here too young to remember Palm, Windows CE, Pocket PC, et al? We need new terminology for describing the transition that occurred once we had pervasive smartphones with built-in app stores, because it's nonsensical to claim that "mobile" didn't exist before that.