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But still a good proportition of them ends up spending their lives in there by returning again and again if not being sentenced for life straight away. It's as

by zxcdw 13y ago

But still a good proportition of them ends up spending their lives in there by returning again and again if not being sentenced for life straight away. It's as if being a criminal was a lifestyle some people choose to adopt from the beginning. They don't even want out of it, and some want back "in" because that's where the culture strives.

smtddr 13y ago
Sure, some... but the system is also set up in such a way that once you're in, it's pretty hard to get out. For one, depending on the crime your background-check is all screwed up now, making it pretty hard to make an honest living. I recently found out some companies don't hire anyone with a felony on record. It's a horrible cycle and I think it's because a lot of people make money with prisons & correction-facilities, so actually making a path to escape the criminal-system is not in their interest. I actually don't think that even half of them actually want to be in jail. I think they've been made to believe there's no way out.
mhd 13y ago
Any numbers on how large that "good proportion" is in the UK? This sounds a bit too Guy Ritchie to me.
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king_jester 13y ago
It's really obvious you don't know much about prison and recidivism. Being convicted and spending time in prison has long reaching affects on your life. Your employment options become more limited, you may lose voting rights, your existing social networks are disconnected, you may be forced into low wage labor while imprisoned, you may be denied access to educational resources that would help you be employed after release, among other things. > It's as if being a criminal was a lifestyle some people choose to adopt from the beginning. They don't even want out of it, and some want back "in" because that's where the culture strives. You think people choose on purpose to be imprisoned rather than be free? This is a rationalization that prisoners deserve to be in prison because they are fundamentally flawed.

by zxcdw 13y ago

smtddr 13y ago

Sure, some... but the system is also set up in such a way that once you're in, it's pretty hard to get out. For one, depending on the crime your background-check is all screwed up now, making it pretty hard to make an honest living. I recently found out some companies don't hire anyone with a felony on record. It's a horrible cycle and I think it's because a lot of people make money with prisons & correction-facilities, so actually making a path to escape the criminal-system is not in their interest. I actually don't think that even half of them actually want to be in jail. I think they've been made to believe there's no way out.

mhd 13y ago

Any numbers on how large that "good proportion" is in the UK? This sounds a bit too Guy Ritchie to me.

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king_jester 13y ago

It's really obvious you don't know much about prison and recidivism. Being convicted and spending time in prison has long reaching affects on your life. Your employment options become more limited, you may lose voting rights, your existing social networks are disconnected, you may be forced into low wage labor while imprisoned, you may be denied access to educational resources that would help you be employed after release, among other things. > It's as if being a criminal was a lifestyle some people choose to adopt from the beginning. They don't even want out of it, and some want back "in" because that's where the culture strives. You think people choose on purpose to be imprisoned rather than be free? This is a rationalization that prisoners deserve to be in prison because they are fundamentally flawed.