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It isn't right, but the authorities truly believe that these leaks are aiding terrorists to evade their surveillance. They see Miranda in exactly the same way i

by junto 13y ago

It isn't right, but the authorities truly believe that these leaks are aiding terrorists to evade their surveillance. They see Miranda in exactly the same way in which they see a drug mule. Not knowing what the documents are that you are carrying is not an acceptable excuse. In their opinion he is carrying stolen property. It is perverse, but it is these warped authoritarian beliefs that the public is up against, and sadly, most of the public don't care.

icambron 13y ago
> the authorities truly believe that these leaks are aiding terrorists to evade their surveillance Even if that were true, leaking documents that aid terrorists is not same as being a terrorist. If it were, they would have arrested Miranda and charged him with being a terrorist. They did not, because they knew full well that he's not a terrorist. Their opinion that he's carrying stolen property or that he's like a drug mule also does not make him a terrorist. Thus it is illegal for the government to use powers that are it's only allowed to use in determining if someone is a terrorist.
ferdo 13y ago
> They see Miranda in exactly the same way in which they see a drug mule. They didn't arrest him, so no. This is harassment of political dissent by the policing arm of the government. What makes this even worse is that it's the British government harassing a Brazilian national for the sake of American intelligence.
- junto 13y ago
  You are missing the point. I know people inside the system and this is what they are telling me. This is how they see him. They see this in an extremely black and white way. Secret documents were stolen. Miranda is handling stolen goods. The Guardian is aiding and abetting terrorism. QED, we can use the terrorism act to stop and search Miranda. I kid you not, this is their psyche. This is how they perceive these leaks.
  - ferdo 13y ago
    > They see this in an extremely black and white way. Of course they do. That's why they're harassing people that dissent from their black and white views.
7952 13y ago
I think it is more evidence of naivety than intentional misdeeds. Of course data is going to be released to everyone, and righteous indignation after the fact is a distraction. Regardless of public interest, the security precautions of these agencies has been found to be seriously lacking. They clearly can't be trusted to maintain private or privileged information.

by junto 13y ago

icambron 13y ago

> the authorities truly believe that these leaks are aiding terrorists to evade their surveillance Even if that were true, leaking documents that aid terrorists is not same as being a terrorist. If it were, they would have arrested Miranda and charged him with being a terrorist. They did not, because they knew full well that he's not a terrorist. Their opinion that he's carrying stolen property or that he's like a drug mule also does not make him a terrorist. Thus it is illegal for the government to use powers that are it's only allowed to use in determining if someone is a terrorist.

ferdo 13y ago

> They see Miranda in exactly the same way in which they see a drug mule. They didn't arrest him, so no. This is harassment of political dissent by the policing arm of the government. What makes this even worse is that it's the British government harassing a Brazilian national for the sake of American intelligence.

junto 13y ago
You are missing the point. I know people inside the system and this is what they are telling me. This is how they see him. They see this in an extremely black and white way. Secret documents were stolen. Miranda is handling stolen goods. The Guardian is aiding and abetting terrorism. QED, we can use the terrorism act to stop and search Miranda. I kid you not, this is their psyche. This is how they perceive these leaks.
- ferdo 13y ago
  > They see this in an extremely black and white way. Of course they do. That's why they're harassing people that dissent from their black and white views.

7952 13y ago

I think it is more evidence of naivety than intentional misdeeds. Of course data is going to be released to everyone, and righteous indignation after the fact is a distraction. Regardless of public interest, the security precautions of these agencies has been found to be seriously lacking. They clearly can't be trusted to maintain private or privileged information.