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"EdgeBSD is primarily hosted in Germany, Europe." I expect to see that a lot more in the future. It's pretty much saying "EdgeBSD is not primarily hosted in th

"EdgeBSD is primarily hosted in Germany, Europe." I expect to see that a lot more in the future. It's pretty much saying "EdgeBSD is not primarily hosted in the USA."

koralatov 13y ago
I agree, but I dislike the use of the qualifier `primarily'.
davidjgraph 13y ago
No, I'm pretty sure it's just saying that it's hosted in the Germany... Our primary company servers are hosted in Germany, because that gives the lowest overall latency for the locations of our employees, maybe it's just a similar technical reason? And it's so slow that I suspect it's running from someone's bedroom, anyway.
davidw 13y ago
Yes, I think hosting open source projects outside the US is eminently sensible; it would be terrible if organizations like the NSA were able to go through every single commit on the project, see who did it, and what they changed.
- pekru 13y ago
  What's stopping NSA from scanning http://git.edgebsd.org http://git.edgebsd.org ?
  - rpsw 13y ago
    The GP was being sarcastic. The need for privacy would be small on a project that is open by it's very nature.
    - laumars 13y ago
      True, but there's also the argument of patents (eg how DVD decoding libraries cannot be shipped from US-based Linux distros)
shin_lao 13y ago
For us Europeans knowing servers are hosted in an European country has got everything to do with latency and nothing to do with some sort of anti-americanism.
- harrytuttle 13y ago
  Actually in our case, it's for compliance and confidence purposes and hatred of American politics and government policy, not the American people. Not one single company in the financial sector in the UK wants their kit anywhere near the US or in any datacentres with US ownership any more simply because of the PATRIOT act and PRISM etc. We just moved 2 tonnes of kit into a wholly UK owned DC away from two large primarily US based DC's. We've also cancelled our Amazon S3 storage option and migrated over 540Gb of data back to our kit. People have paid for all this voluntarily because being responsble for being fucked over by the US government is a big concern. Would you want all your mortgage, insurance and credit scoring data in the hands of a foreign government who religiously ignore data protection laws?
  - liljimmytables 13y ago
    This is certainly the case for businesses with proprietary data, for an open-source community like we're discussing it's just another (admittedly rather useless) online backup service :)
    - harrytuttle 13y ago
      Until someone things it's ok to meddle with your infrastructure and codebase without a warrant...
      - bdunbar 13y ago
        If you think only the US is capable of these kind of shenanigans you have another think coming.
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"EdgeBSD is primarily hosted in Germany, Europe." I expect to see that a lot more in the future. It's pretty much saying "EdgeBSD is not primarily hosted in the USA."

koralatov 13y ago

I agree, but I dislike the use of the qualifier `primarily'.

davidjgraph 13y ago

No, I'm pretty sure it's just saying that it's hosted in the Germany... Our primary company servers are hosted in Germany, because that gives the lowest overall latency for the locations of our employees, maybe it's just a similar technical reason? And it's so slow that I suspect it's running from someone's bedroom, anyway.

davidw 13y ago

Yes, I think hosting open source projects outside the US is eminently sensible; it would be terrible if organizations like the NSA were able to go through every single commit on the project, see who did it, and what they changed.

pekru 13y ago
What's stopping NSA from scanning http://git.edgebsd.org http://git.edgebsd.org ?
- rpsw 13y ago
  The GP was being sarcastic. The need for privacy would be small on a project that is open by it's very nature.
  - laumars 13y ago
    True, but there's also the argument of patents (eg how DVD decoding libraries cannot be shipped from US-based Linux distros)

shin_lao 13y ago

For us Europeans knowing servers are hosted in an European country has got everything to do with latency and nothing to do with some sort of anti-americanism.

harrytuttle 13y ago
Actually in our case, it's for compliance and confidence purposes and hatred of American politics and government policy, not the American people. Not one single company in the financial sector in the UK wants their kit anywhere near the US or in any datacentres with US ownership any more simply because of the PATRIOT act and PRISM etc. We just moved 2 tonnes of kit into a wholly UK owned DC away from two large primarily US based DC's. We've also cancelled our Amazon S3 storage option and migrated over 540Gb of data back to our kit. People have paid for all this voluntarily because being responsble for being fucked over by the US government is a big concern. Would you want all your mortgage, insurance and credit scoring data in the hands of a foreign government who religiously ignore data protection laws?
- liljimmytables 13y ago
  This is certainly the case for businesses with proprietary data, for an open-source community like we're discussing it's just another (admittedly rather useless) online backup service :)
  - harrytuttle 13y ago
    Until someone things it's ok to meddle with your infrastructure and codebase without a warrant...
    - bdunbar 13y ago
      If you think only the US is capable of these kind of shenanigans you have another think coming.
      - 13y ago

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