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Why aren't there more <gender> <roles>? female bricklayers male seamstresses and on and on and on. Is it really a problem? People do what they want, less women

Why aren't there more <gender> <roles>? female bricklayers male seamstresses and on and on and on. Is it really a problem? People do what they want, less women want to program, I see no problem with this.

wpietri 13y ago
Not seeing a problem isn't evidence that the problem doesn't exist. Announcing that you don't see a problem is a way of denying that there's a problem.
- jquery 13y ago
  And announcing there's a problem is not evidence that the problem does exist.
erikpukinskis 13y ago
> People do what they want, less women want to program Fewer women want to program because they're taught from a very young age that they can't. As a result, we're losing out on a bunch of great programmers, which I think is a loss. I also think it's sad that girls are made to feel like these things are off-limits to them. I think the world would be a better place if every kid thought they could do whatever job they wanted to.
- yelnatz 13y ago
  Whose teaching them they cant?
  - jacalata 13y ago
    Everyone on this page who says something like 'I'm pretty sure that women don't normally like programming'.
  - pjbrunet 13y ago
    I don't know. My programming teacher in high school was literally on his knees begging the last two girls to continue to the next level.
    - erikpukinskis 13y ago
      It sounds like you're suggesting that since one teacher is encouraging two girls to program that therefore everyone in every girl's life is just as encouraging to them as they are to the boys.
      - pjbrunet 13y ago
        Is that true for anyone? If someone I really respect is encouraging me, that's very persuasive but there are so many forces at work when choosing a career, I don't think there's any way to quantify that decision. But of course teachers make a big difference, for better or worse. This particular teacher, I know one of his female students is a successful 3D graphics engineer, another classmate works at Intel, etc.

wpietri 13y ago

Not seeing a problem isn't evidence that the problem doesn't exist. Announcing that you don't see a problem is a way of denying that there's a problem.

jquery 13y ago
And announcing there's a problem is not evidence that the problem does exist.

erikpukinskis 13y ago

> People do what they want, less women want to program Fewer women want to program because they're taught from a very young age that they can't. As a result, we're losing out on a bunch of great programmers, which I think is a loss. I also think it's sad that girls are made to feel like these things are off-limits to them. I think the world would be a better place if every kid thought they could do whatever job they wanted to.

yelnatz 13y ago
Whose teaching them they cant?
- jacalata 13y ago
  Everyone on this page who says something like 'I'm pretty sure that women don't normally like programming'.
- pjbrunet 13y ago
  I don't know. My programming teacher in high school was literally on his knees begging the last two girls to continue to the next level.
  - erikpukinskis 13y ago
    It sounds like you're suggesting that since one teacher is encouraging two girls to program that therefore everyone in every girl's life is just as encouraging to them as they are to the boys.
    - pjbrunet 13y ago
      Is that true for anyone? If someone I really respect is encouraging me, that's very persuasive but there are so many forces at work when choosing a career, I don't think there's any way to quantify that decision. But of course teachers make a big difference, for better or worse. This particular teacher, I know one of his female students is a successful 3D graphics engineer, another classmate works at Intel, etc.