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Well, lack of sleep causes epilepsy seizures. Not to mention a bunch of other health problems in people who don't have epilepsy. It's ridiculous to expect peo
by jval 13y ago
Well, lack of sleep causes epilepsy seizures. Not to mention a bunch of other health problems in people who don't have epilepsy.
It's ridiculous to expect people to work this long, and saying people choose to be put in the situation is just irrelevant. We have workers rights for a reason. All of the people who have died doing manual labor over the last 1000 years 'chose' to be in that position as well but that didn't stop us putting in protections for them. Doesn't mean people don't do dangerous shit we just make sure they're well trained, aware of the dangers, given the best safety possible and not forced to do things that are gratuitously dangerous. That happens in the army too. It definitely doesn't happen in IB.
I don't know a single McKinsey consultant who regularly pulls 100+ hour weeks. Those are definitely an exception in MC. 80 hours maybe, but definitely not over 100 regularly if you're not in IBD.
Startup founders worth their salt? I doubt that too. I just don't think 100+ is productive. Pulling 3 all nighters in a row is just ridiculous. You need to get a sense for the difference between even 4 hours sleep (which is really not enough to be near productive) and 0 hours sleep (which just ruins a person).
Nobody's saying people shouldn't work 80 hour weeks, there just has to be limits in place. Nobody's asking for a 40 hour a week cap, just don't make someone work 3 all nighters, simple.
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- lmartel 13y ago"It's fine that an intern spent so long at work that he died because he should have known what he was getting himself into"
- anatari 13y agoYou're mistaken on workers rights being a response to asymmetric information, it's a response to asymmetry in power. However, whether or not an IB worker's power position is exploitive is more arguable.
- rwallace 13y agoI'm saying people shouldn't work 80-hour weeks. I'm asking for a 30 hour a week cap. The data is pretty clear that your judgment starts going downhill after that, and much faster than you subjectively think it does, and as you say, the data is also pretty clear that this area is a market failure.
- acchow 13y agoYou don't need any all-nighters to pull 100 hours a week. Live next to the office, work while you eat, take 2 hours off and sleep 8 hours a day - work the rest, and you're at 100 hours.