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We sorta-kinda translate or mangle some names, don't we? I've often wondered why the English name for "München" is "Munich"... it's not even that close and doe

by sk5t 13y ago

We sorta-kinda translate or mangle some names, don't we? I've often wondered why the English name for "München" is "Munich"... it's not even that close and doesn't mean anything in English.

grimman 13y ago
It's far closer than Sverige -> Sweden, though. To us it may seem there's little rhyme or reason, but there is probably some logic behind it. :)
reeses 13y ago
I hate to be that guy, but you're thinking about endonyms and eponyms. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exonym_and_endonym http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exonym_and_endonym: The United Nations Group of Experts on Geographical Names defines: Endonym: Name of a geographical feature in an official or well-established language occurring in that area where the feature is located. Exonym: Name used in a specific language for a geographical feature situated outside the area where that language is spoken, and differing in its form from the name used in an official or well-established language of that area where the geographical feature is located.[2] For example, China, India and Germany are the English exonyms corresponding to the endonyms Zhongguo, Bharat and Deutschland, respectively.
- sk5t 13y ago
  There's no need to hate being the guy who introduced me to the proper terminology. I like knowing the proper terminology.
jdminhbg 13y ago
> I've often wondered why the English name for "München" is "Munich"... it's not even that close and doesn't mean anything in English. "Its native name, München, is derived from the Old High German Munichen, meaning 'by the monks' place'." [0] Relatedly, it's "Monaco" in Italian, so Monaco the principality is "Montecarlo." [0]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich
justincormack 13y ago
Historically us Brits were not very good at foreign names, Leghorn vs Livorno for example. In some cases though the name has changed and we use one not in current use, eg Danzig vs Gdansk. Spelling was less standardised too.

by sk5t 13y ago

We sorta-kinda translate or mangle some names, don't we? I've often wondered why the English name for "München" is "Munich"... it's not even that close and doesn't mean anything in English.

grimman 13y ago

It's far closer than Sverige -> Sweden, though. To us it may seem there's little rhyme or reason, but there is probably some logic behind it. :)

reeses 13y ago

I hate to be that guy, but you're thinking about endonyms and eponyms. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exonym_and_endonym http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exonym_and_endonym: The United Nations Group of Experts on Geographical Names defines: Endonym: Name of a geographical feature in an official or well-established language occurring in that area where the feature is located. Exonym: Name used in a specific language for a geographical feature situated outside the area where that language is spoken, and differing in its form from the name used in an official or well-established language of that area where the geographical feature is located.[2] For example, China, India and Germany are the English exonyms corresponding to the endonyms Zhongguo, Bharat and Deutschland, respectively.

sk5t 13y ago
There's no need to hate being the guy who introduced me to the proper terminology. I like knowing the proper terminology.

jdminhbg 13y ago

> I've often wondered why the English name for "München" is "Munich"... it's not even that close and doesn't mean anything in English. "Its native name, München, is derived from the Old High German Munichen, meaning 'by the monks' place'." [0] Relatedly, it's "Monaco" in Italian, so Monaco the principality is "Montecarlo." [0]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich

justincormack 13y ago

Historically us Brits were not very good at foreign names, Leghorn vs Livorno for example. In some cases though the name has changed and we use one not in current use, eg Danzig vs Gdansk. Spelling was less standardised too.