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I've tried that. The response is always, "This is how we do our interviews. If we changed it for you, it would be hard to compare you to our other applicants"

I've tried that. The response is always, "This is how we do our interviews. If we changed it for you, it would be hard to compare you to our other applicants".

adanto6840 13y ago
That's likely to be someone you do not want to work for...
rhizome 13y ago
That certainly begs the question about which aspects of the process are even quantifiable.
gte910h 13y ago
"Then don't. Toss out this experience if I'm not clearly better."
- pekk 13y ago
  it appears that the maxim is, Always Be Cocky
  - gte910h 13y ago
    No, if you're going to fail at the stupid test some random person dug up, you have nothing to lose by renegotiating.
hackula1 13y ago
2 months later: "Gary can do his mockups just fine in MS Paint. We're gonna have to deny that request for a Balsamiq license... mmmkay?"
ballard 13y ago
Yup. Business theater continues despite evidence it doesn't work. [1] Consider this a signal everything else is broken too. Notice their signals to show you are more than a technical automata to "fill a process void in the value chain". The best interviews are as casual as possible, and not called interviews. Good interview process looks like: - 2 phone screens (recruiter||hr and then hiring manager && closest cowoker, if any) - webcam screen - a couple on-sites that may lead to: - questions about what they've been working on, what's important to them, their career development goals and eventual desired package (that's basically it) - take someone out to lunch - play a sport with them [2] - work on a current problem - have an adventure (very important for hiring manager and coworkers to have a say; placing staff under a manager is fail.) Skip the: - behavioral questions Before hiring someone on a temporary project basis. Full time in a reasonable amount of time (average 6 months), or part time if that works better for them. This way, it's cool to feel each other out in the non-creepy professional way and there's no hurt feelings. [1] http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/career/google-admits-bizarre-interview-questions-a-waste-of-time/5041/ http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/career/google-admits-bizarr... [2] I hate all sports, except Scrumball and World Cup.
- CaveTech 13y ago
  Surely you don't mean do all those steps? That's an incredibly long process that I definitely wouldn't put up with. If I want to check out 10 companies, I simply can't scale with this unless I'm unemployed.
- durzagott 13y ago
  Wow, it sounds like you're interviewing for a best friend there not a work colleague. I seriously doubt you've ever recruited more than a handful of people using this criteria.

I've tried that. The response is always, "This is how we do our interviews. If we changed it for you, it would be hard to compare you to our other applicants".

adanto6840 13y ago

That's likely to be someone you do not want to work for...

rhizome 13y ago

That certainly begs the question about which aspects of the process are even quantifiable.

gte910h 13y ago

"Then don't. Toss out this experience if I'm not clearly better."

pekk 13y ago
it appears that the maxim is, Always Be Cocky
- gte910h 13y ago
  No, if you're going to fail at the stupid test some random person dug up, you have nothing to lose by renegotiating.

hackula1 13y ago

2 months later: "Gary can do his mockups just fine in MS Paint. We're gonna have to deny that request for a Balsamiq license... mmmkay?"

ballard 13y ago

Yup. Business theater continues despite evidence it doesn't work. [1] Consider this a signal everything else is broken too. Notice their signals to show you are more than a technical automata to "fill a process void in the value chain". The best interviews are as casual as possible, and not called interviews. Good interview process looks like: - 2 phone screens (recruiter||hr and then hiring manager && closest cowoker, if any) - webcam screen - a couple on-sites that may lead to: - questions about what they've been working on, what's important to them, their career development goals and eventual desired package (that's basically it) - take someone out to lunch - play a sport with them [2] - work on a current problem - have an adventure (very important for hiring manager and coworkers to have a say; placing staff under a manager is fail.) Skip the: - behavioral questions Before hiring someone on a temporary project basis. Full time in a reasonable amount of time (average 6 months), or part time if that works better for them. This way, it's cool to feel each other out in the non-creepy professional way and there's no hurt feelings. [1] http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/career/google-admits-bizarre-interview-questions-a-waste-of-time/5041/ http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/career/google-admits-bizarr... [2] I hate all sports, except Scrumball and World Cup.

CaveTech 13y ago
Surely you don't mean do all those steps? That's an incredibly long process that I definitely wouldn't put up with. If I want to check out 10 companies, I simply can't scale with this unless I'm unemployed.
durzagott 13y ago
Wow, it sounds like you're interviewing for a best friend there not a work colleague. I seriously doubt you've ever recruited more than a handful of people using this criteria.