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This stuff is based on plain old identity federation. SAML protocol using SAML assertions. The problem is that they're outsourcing identity provision - ref. ".
by Spearchucker 13y ago
This stuff is based on plain old identity federation. SAML protocol using SAML assertions.
The problem is that they're outsourcing identity provision - ref. "...such as banks, governments, healthcare organizations, and others..." in the linked article.
The article also (correctly) states that "The credential exchange will be designed to transmit credential information securely without knowing users’ actual identities."
This is neat, for sure, but isn't always required (how would a health care provider be useful if they didn't know who you are), and is only half of what they should be doing.
So the relying party shouldn't always need know who the user actually is, but (much more importantly) the identity provider should never need to know where the user is conducting his or her affairs.
As an example:
You're laid off at work, and need to claim benefits. You have a mortgage, and because you feel you can get a new job before you run out of savings that service the mortgage, you don't want your bank to know that you're been laid off. But guess what, your bank is your identity provider, and will know that you've logged into the jobless benefits site. So the bank flies your mortgage into the side of the mountain. No survivors, call off the search.
Providing this kind of asynchronous privacy (where, at the user's discretion, the relying party cannot determine who the user is, and the identity provider cannot determine who the relying party is) is not difficult. U-Prove is tech from Microsoft (acquired from Credentica) that does it, and is open-source.
- imgabe 13y agoWhat do you mean "there goes your mortgage"? Banks don't swoop in and foreclose on your home just because you don't have a job. If you're still making the monthly payments then your mortgage is still in good standing. They don't care if the money is coming from a salary or your savings.
- Spearchucker 13y agoIt's a dramatized example intended only to illustrate the point.
- imgabe 13y agoExcept it doesn't illustrate the point because it's completely inaccurate and doesn't make any sense. If you're still making payments, what does the bank have to gain by "flying your mortgage into the side of a mountain"? What do you even mean by that? I get that there are ways that the bank could screw if they're your identity provider. What you stated is not one of them.
- Spearchucker 13y agoOk, you win.