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As much as I'd like to disagree with you, I agree. But in the long term I think the trust can be restored, if majority of people can actually give a shit about
by dombili 13y ago
As much as I'd like to disagree with you, I agree. But in the long term I think the trust can be restored, if majority of people can actually give a shit about these revelations. Mostly because NSA can't do the things they do without the support of big companies like Google, Apple, Microsoft etc. Once these companies start losing money and the reason is apparent, they'll take actions against the government as Lavabit and other relatively small sized companies had done (not saying they'd shut down, obviously).
Governments act the way they do because majority of people don't care about any of this stuff, not yet at least. Most people who're uneasy about these revelations are uneasy because of what might happen in the future and they fear how far governments are willing to go (or better yet, can they go any further) to invade our privacy. Today, governments' actions don't effect any of us, not directly at least. It's been the case that people don't act against something unless that thing directly effect their lives.
But maybe it really is too late and the trust can not be restored again. Wealth inequality directly effects the citizens of the US (at least that's how I see it from a foreigners point of view) and the US citizens did nothing to change it, other than OWS movement which was arguably a desperate attempt.
- Tezro 13y ago> But in the long term I think the trust can be restored, if majority of people can actually give a shit about these revelations. The problem is, that right now US based cloud services loose customers to other competitors which are not hampered by ridiculous US laws. Since cloud services are all about customer lock in, it does not matter if trust can be restored at a later time(which I personally doubt). They have lost the customer to a competitor - most likely forever.
- dombili 13y agoI was actually talking about the trust between governments and their citizens. But since you brought it up... > The problem is, that right now US based cloud services loose customers to other competitors which are not hampered by ridiculous US laws. I don't think that's the case. Is there even a cloud service that's out of NSA's reach that's become prominent after these revelations? People on HN mentioned some services, but general public still use Dropbox, Google Drive, Skydrive as if nothing's happened.