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Steak and eggs. Quick, tasty, high in protein, low in carbs. Considered a traditional breakfast.

by __--__ 13y ago

gnaritas 13y ago
Requires cooking, not quick.
- foobarbazqux 13y ago
  When is it ever healthy to rush preparing and eating your meals on a regular basis?
  - gnaritas 13y ago
    That's rather the point of people wanting something like Soilent to begin with, people often don't want to take the time necessary to make proper healthy food. It shouldn't be so much work to fuel up.
    - foobarbazqux 13y ago
      My point is that taking the time necessary to make (and eat) proper healthy food is a large part of what makes it healthy.
      - gnaritas 13y ago
        Which is the bug things like Soilent (not that I support Soilent) are trying to fix. In this day and age, science should be able to fix problems like this so we can have fast and healthy food. You're begging the question.
        foobarbazqux 13y ago
        Preparing food slowly and eating it slowly together with other people and enjoying the entire process is psychologically healthy. Michael Pollan has written extensively about this. It's not just about the nutrients.
        gnaritas 13y ago
        You know what else is psychologically healthy, not being forced to spend hours a day preparing and eating food. Not everyone enjoys the process and it's not psychologically healthy for those who don't, it's a pain in the ass. Guess what, some of us don't like other people that much either and can't stand the idea of having to regularly eat meals with them. Michael Pollan is a foodie and an English major, he has no credentials with which to say what is or isn't psychologically healthy. His "opinion" on the matter is just that, an opinion.
        foobarbazqux 13y ago
        Pollan is an investigative journalist more than anything. But whatever, it was just a pointer. There is quite a bit written out there about the psychological aspects of eating. I'll agree that Soylent is healthier fast food than McDonald's. I just won't agree that eating Soylent on a regular basis is as healthy as taking your time and sharing non-McDonald's meals with your friends and/or family. Everyone has friends and family. I guess I feel like Soylent is encouraging social isolation, and helping people to deprive themselves of the physical pleasure of eating. I'll also agree that spending hours a day preparing food sucks. That's for professional chefs and stay-at-home spouses to choose. But a maximum average of an hour total per day is pretty reasonable in my opinion.
        gnaritas 13y ago
        I'm not talking about Soilent itself, but about Soilent like things. The chances that Soilent itself is good are pretty slim as its just some kid experimenting. However, there will come a product eventually that can completely replace food and be healthy, and many will embrace it with open arms because most of the time, fuel is just fuel, not an event. An hour a day is too much, and it isn't depriving us of anything; people will still be able to take pleasure in eating real food when they want to, they just won't be forced to at every meal. And you're a bit disconnected from reality, no everyone does not have family and friends; you should think really hard about why you think they do and about how insensitive it is to presume that. Tons of people have no family left, and tons of people are friendless either by choice or not.
- IanCal 13y ago
  It doesn't require much attention though. Boil kettle, drop eggs into water on the stove, leave for 5 minutes. Put steaks on a foreman grill, take off when done. I'm pretty sure I can do this with less than 60 seconds of attentive time, the rest can be spent catching up on tech stories, pull requests or whatever. Frying it all would be even easier, too. Heat pan, put steak and eggs in, leave for a couple of minutes. Turn steak, leave for a couple of minutes. Slide everything onto a plate, eat.
  - gnaritas 13y ago
    You've missed the point of fast. It's not about attentive time, it's about total time and not cooking. What you suggest fails on all counts. People who want fast want it because they're in a hurry, often because they're running late for something. They don't have time to boil water or prep a steak. Love my foreman, but it takes a solid 4 minutes cook time and 10 minutes rest time to make a proper steak, that's not fast.
    - IanCal 13y ago
      > They don't have time to boil water I refuse to live a life where I regularly cannot find time to boil water. That's just absolute insanity. > but it takes a solid 4 minutes cook time and 10 minutes rest time to make a proper steak, that's not fast. If we're comparing it against eating soylent, then I don't think resting it is going to be vital. An unrested steak is still tasty, which means we're talking about 4 minutes. Maybe we've got vastly different ideas of "quick".
      - gnaritas 13y ago
        > I refuse to live a life where I regularly cannot find time to boil water. That's just absolute insanity. That's fine for you; others don't want to have to take that time just to refuel. We don't all think of eating as an event or a treat, it's often just a burden of being biological. > An unrested steak is still tasty, which means we're talking about 4 minutes. Then we seriously disagree about the proper way to make a steak. :)

Steak and eggs. Quick, tasty, high in protein, low in carbs. Considered a traditional breakfast.

by __--__ 13y ago

Steak and eggs. Quick, tasty, high in protein, low in carbs. Considered a traditional breakfast.

gnaritas 13y ago

Requires cooking, not quick.

foobarbazqux 13y ago
When is it ever healthy to rush preparing and eating your meals on a regular basis?
- gnaritas 13y ago
  That's rather the point of people wanting something like Soilent to begin with, people often don't want to take the time necessary to make proper healthy food. It shouldn't be so much work to fuel up.
  - foobarbazqux 13y ago
    My point is that taking the time necessary to make (and eat) proper healthy food is a large part of what makes it healthy.
    - gnaritas 13y ago
      Which is the bug things like Soilent (not that I support Soilent) are trying to fix. In this day and age, science should be able to fix problems like this so we can have fast and healthy food. You're begging the question.
      - foobarbazqux 13y ago
        Preparing food slowly and eating it slowly together with other people and enjoying the entire process is psychologically healthy. Michael Pollan has written extensively about this. It's not just about the nutrients.
        gnaritas 13y ago
        You know what else is psychologically healthy, not being forced to spend hours a day preparing and eating food. Not everyone enjoys the process and it's not psychologically healthy for those who don't, it's a pain in the ass. Guess what, some of us don't like other people that much either and can't stand the idea of having to regularly eat meals with them. Michael Pollan is a foodie and an English major, he has no credentials with which to say what is or isn't psychologically healthy. His "opinion" on the matter is just that, an opinion.
        foobarbazqux 13y ago
        Pollan is an investigative journalist more than anything. But whatever, it was just a pointer. There is quite a bit written out there about the psychological aspects of eating. I'll agree that Soylent is healthier fast food than McDonald's. I just won't agree that eating Soylent on a regular basis is as healthy as taking your time and sharing non-McDonald's meals with your friends and/or family. Everyone has friends and family. I guess I feel like Soylent is encouraging social isolation, and helping people to deprive themselves of the physical pleasure of eating. I'll also agree that spending hours a day preparing food sucks. That's for professional chefs and stay-at-home spouses to choose. But a maximum average of an hour total per day is pretty reasonable in my opinion.
        gnaritas 13y ago
        I'm not talking about Soilent itself, but about Soilent like things. The chances that Soilent itself is good are pretty slim as its just some kid experimenting. However, there will come a product eventually that can completely replace food and be healthy, and many will embrace it with open arms because most of the time, fuel is just fuel, not an event. An hour a day is too much, and it isn't depriving us of anything; people will still be able to take pleasure in eating real food when they want to, they just won't be forced to at every meal. And you're a bit disconnected from reality, no everyone does not have family and friends; you should think really hard about why you think they do and about how insensitive it is to presume that. Tons of people have no family left, and tons of people are friendless either by choice or not.
IanCal 13y ago
It doesn't require much attention though. Boil kettle, drop eggs into water on the stove, leave for 5 minutes. Put steaks on a foreman grill, take off when done. I'm pretty sure I can do this with less than 60 seconds of attentive time, the rest can be spent catching up on tech stories, pull requests or whatever. Frying it all would be even easier, too. Heat pan, put steak and eggs in, leave for a couple of minutes. Turn steak, leave for a couple of minutes. Slide everything onto a plate, eat.
- gnaritas 13y ago
  You've missed the point of fast. It's not about attentive time, it's about total time and not cooking. What you suggest fails on all counts. People who want fast want it because they're in a hurry, often because they're running late for something. They don't have time to boil water or prep a steak. Love my foreman, but it takes a solid 4 minutes cook time and 10 minutes rest time to make a proper steak, that's not fast.
  - IanCal 13y ago
    > They don't have time to boil water I refuse to live a life where I regularly cannot find time to boil water. That's just absolute insanity. > but it takes a solid 4 minutes cook time and 10 minutes rest time to make a proper steak, that's not fast. If we're comparing it against eating soylent, then I don't think resting it is going to be vital. An unrested steak is still tasty, which means we're talking about 4 minutes. Maybe we've got vastly different ideas of "quick".
    - gnaritas 13y ago
      > I refuse to live a life where I regularly cannot find time to boil water. That's just absolute insanity. That's fine for you; others don't want to have to take that time just to refuel. We don't all think of eating as an event or a treat, it's often just a burden of being biological. > An unrested steak is still tasty, which means we're talking about 4 minutes. Then we seriously disagree about the proper way to make a steak. :)