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What's the big deal? What this guy is eating already is definitely above average in quality. A Chipotle burrito bol (fresh whole ingredients, sans tortilla) i

What's the big deal? What this guy is eating already is definitely above average in quality. A Chipotle burrito bol (fresh whole ingredients, sans tortilla) is a legit meal. Other than dental impacts from the carbonation, health hysteria about diet soda and aspartame has been debunked. I don't know about the take-out Thai, but at least it's real food and not some preservative-laden packaged food product from the grocery store. Not everybody has 5 hours a day or a stay-at-home wife to cook their Whole Foods organic produce into a masterpiece of nutrition.

lysol 13y ago
Even the veggie burrito bol is in the 800 range for calories, and based on how employees heap stuff on, much more than that. It's really two meals' worth of food. Even the highest quality starch and fat filled meal is still a starch and fat filled meal. The health hysteria over aspartame hasn't really been fully debunked, there are still countless conflicting studies about the effects of aspartame, one of the more recent ones finding the metabolic effects of artificial sweetener to be the same as an actual HFCS-sweetened soda. Soda may or may not be bad for you, but it's certainly empty calories. He shows a picture of Diet Coke but mentions Vanilla Coke throughout. Your parent comment is on the mark.
- jurassic 13y ago
  800 calories for one of his two daily meals is not bad. And I'm curious what you think he should be eating for calories as a vegetarian (he said he didn't eat meat) if fat and starch are both off limits. A raw vegan diet is the only one I can think of that limits both of those, and I would dispute its healthfulness.
- ars_technician 13y ago
  >Soda may or may not be bad for you, but it's certainly empty calories. Not diet soda. There are NO calories in it. It's not "empty calories". With your level of ignorance, I'm surprised you haven't poisoned yourself. >Even the veggie burrito bol is in the 800 range for calories, and based on how employees heap stuff on, The calorie counts have to be based on the average serving size, or they will be fined by the FDA for lying.
  - ovoxo 13y ago
    Wait, did you just say that diet soda has "no calories" then proceed to call someone ignorant?
bobzimuta 13y ago
Above average in quality? He was taking in nearly twice the daily recommended intake of sodium [1] and nearly all of his self reported vitamin/mineral intake was about 1/3 of the daily recommended levels. [1] http://www.cdc.gov/Features/dsSodium/ http://www.cdc.gov/Features/dsSodium/
- jrockway 13y ago
  Sodium is a problem for some people, but it's also not a problem for some people. It's certainly something to pay attention to, but probably not as important as the many other important things to pay attention to, unless his blood pressure is affected by sodium and it's already too high.
- asdasf 13y ago
  >and nearly all of his self reported vitamin/mineral intake was about 1/3 of the daily recommended levels. Yeah, and that is above average. You are seriously over-estimating how healthy the average american's diet is. This is one of the big reasons people are interested in soylent, getting 100% of all your vitamins and minerals by just eating "real food" is actually very difficult.
obstacle1 13y ago
One burrito bowl can contain something like 75% of your daily sodium intake. The calorie:vitamin ratio is also terrible. Go play around with their nutrition calculator [1]. It's fast food. [1] - http://www.chipotle.com/en-us/menu/nutrition_calculator/nutrition_calculator.aspx http://www.chipotle.com/en-us/menu/nutrition_calculator/nutr...
- ars_technician 13y ago
  >One burrito bowl can contain something like 75% of your daily sodium intake. So? It's not like he's eating two of those a day.
- papa_bear 13y ago
  Unless you're at high risk of a heart attack or totally dehydrated, negative health effects of high sodium are almost entirely negligible.
ovoxo 13y ago
"Not everybody has 5 hours a day or a stay-at-home wife to cook their Whole Foods organic produce into a masterpiece of nutrition." ... you sir must live in the same age that your username implies. Also, your argument here is silly. This guy's diet is not "above average" in quality by any means and a Chipotle Burito Bol is not a "legit meal" based on what one would consider to be a healthy lifestyle. The amount of sodium alone in those things is enough to make me and some of your organs cringe - literally. Go to the grocery store. Pick up some raw foods. Cook them on a Sunday night. Put them in the fridge. Pat yourself on the back. You've just managed to prep your lunch/dinner for the week and you did it all without having to find a stay-at-home wife.
bambax 13y ago
Cooking a real meal for one person takes less than 15 minutes each time, so that's a maximum of 30 minutes per day (lunch+dinner) + maybe 5 other minutes for breakfast, depending on ingredients (bread+butter+orange juice=zero cooking). I was also amazed by the cost of his daily diet: $24 per day, excluding restaurants on weekends?!? I eat natural, 'normal' food for much less than $10 per day, and I live in one of the most expensive cities in the world. PS That said, I'm intrigued by Soylent and would like to try it -- although not at its current price point.
- mberning 13y ago
  The idea that you can consistently get away with 15 minutes of prep time for each meal is a pipe dream. Unless you are eating the most simple and monotonous diet imaginable. If you have any kind of variety in your diet you can expect that some meals take an hour or more to prepare.
rsynnott 13y ago
> Not everybody has 5 hours a day or a stay-at-home wife to cook their Whole Foods organic produce into a masterpiece of nutrition. I'm guessing from this that you've never cooked in your life? (Hint: Pretty much nobody cooks five hours a day unless it is their job. I mostly cook for myself, and I don't think I've ever really spent more than 30 minutes of active work on it).
- jurassic 13y ago
  From these humorless responses it seems the hyperbole of my last sentence has been lost, but I stand by the sentiment that educating yourself about healthy eating and then executing a varied and healthful diet (including the fully loaded time cost of planning, shopping more often for fresh ingredients, cooking, and cleaning up) is a serious undertaking that few people have the time or inclination to pull off on a regular basis. This is complicated by the reality that nutrition is a field of many opinions, conventional wisdom and anti-conventional health movements (raw foodism, veganism, vegetarianism, keto, paleo, etc), and almost no reliable truths. Everyone here saying anything along the lines of "ZOMG, my healthy meals like toast+juice only take me 15 minutes each" has no idea what they are talking about. The list of healthy whole foods (those that don't come out of boxes or bags) that can be prepped and cooked and cleaned in 15 minutes is a short one. I know because I spend a lot of time planning, shopping, and cooking a variety of foods. If anyone cares, right now I eat 90% paleo with occasional dairy and legumes. For years I was involved in veganism/vegetarianism, but quit when I realized it was more like a food religion than a rational healthy choice. Think of the average grocery store. All that crap lining the aisle shelves is going to get bought by somebody, and even if we allow for the longer "residence time" of packaged food products compared to fresh produce/meats we can infer that the average shopper is leaving with the preparations for a depressingly monotonous and nutritionally poor diet of mostly corn-derivatives, flour, and sugar. If you had to empty out a standard grocery store one cart at a time, the average haul would be far worse than anything the writer admits eating. As fun as it is to get self righteous about food ideology, anybody who actually thinks the writer's diet is poor in comparison to the average American diet isn't thinking far enough beyond their own experience.

lysol 13y ago

Even the veggie burrito bol is in the 800 range for calories, and based on how employees heap stuff on, much more than that. It's really two meals' worth of food. Even the highest quality starch and fat filled meal is still a starch and fat filled meal. The health hysteria over aspartame hasn't really been fully debunked, there are still countless conflicting studies about the effects of aspartame, one of the more recent ones finding the metabolic effects of artificial sweetener to be the same as an actual HFCS-sweetened soda. Soda may or may not be bad for you, but it's certainly empty calories. He shows a picture of Diet Coke but mentions Vanilla Coke throughout. Your parent comment is on the mark.

jurassic 13y ago
800 calories for one of his two daily meals is not bad. And I'm curious what you think he should be eating for calories as a vegetarian (he said he didn't eat meat) if fat and starch are both off limits. A raw vegan diet is the only one I can think of that limits both of those, and I would dispute its healthfulness.
ars_technician 13y ago
>Soda may or may not be bad for you, but it's certainly empty calories. Not diet soda. There are NO calories in it. It's not "empty calories". With your level of ignorance, I'm surprised you haven't poisoned yourself. >Even the veggie burrito bol is in the 800 range for calories, and based on how employees heap stuff on, The calorie counts have to be based on the average serving size, or they will be fined by the FDA for lying.
- ovoxo 13y ago
  Wait, did you just say that diet soda has "no calories" then proceed to call someone ignorant?

bobzimuta 13y ago

Above average in quality? He was taking in nearly twice the daily recommended intake of sodium [1] and nearly all of his self reported vitamin/mineral intake was about 1/3 of the daily recommended levels. [1] http://www.cdc.gov/Features/dsSodium/ http://www.cdc.gov/Features/dsSodium/

jrockway 13y ago
Sodium is a problem for some people, but it's also not a problem for some people. It's certainly something to pay attention to, but probably not as important as the many other important things to pay attention to, unless his blood pressure is affected by sodium and it's already too high.
asdasf 13y ago
>and nearly all of his self reported vitamin/mineral intake was about 1/3 of the daily recommended levels. Yeah, and that is above average. You are seriously over-estimating how healthy the average american's diet is. This is one of the big reasons people are interested in soylent, getting 100% of all your vitamins and minerals by just eating "real food" is actually very difficult.

obstacle1 13y ago

One burrito bowl can contain something like 75% of your daily sodium intake. The calorie:vitamin ratio is also terrible. Go play around with their nutrition calculator [1]. It's fast food. [1] - http://www.chipotle.com/en-us/menu/nutrition_calculator/nutrition_calculator.aspx http://www.chipotle.com/en-us/menu/nutrition_calculator/nutr...

ars_technician 13y ago
>One burrito bowl can contain something like 75% of your daily sodium intake. So? It's not like he's eating two of those a day.
papa_bear 13y ago
Unless you're at high risk of a heart attack or totally dehydrated, negative health effects of high sodium are almost entirely negligible.

ovoxo 13y ago

"Not everybody has 5 hours a day or a stay-at-home wife to cook their Whole Foods organic produce into a masterpiece of nutrition." ... you sir must live in the same age that your username implies. Also, your argument here is silly. This guy's diet is not "above average" in quality by any means and a Chipotle Burito Bol is not a "legit meal" based on what one would consider to be a healthy lifestyle. The amount of sodium alone in those things is enough to make me and some of your organs cringe - literally. Go to the grocery store. Pick up some raw foods. Cook them on a Sunday night. Put them in the fridge. Pat yourself on the back. You've just managed to prep your lunch/dinner for the week and you did it all without having to find a stay-at-home wife.

bambax 13y ago

Cooking a real meal for one person takes less than 15 minutes each time, so that's a maximum of 30 minutes per day (lunch+dinner) + maybe 5 other minutes for breakfast, depending on ingredients (bread+butter+orange juice=zero cooking). I was also amazed by the cost of his daily diet: $24 per day, excluding restaurants on weekends?!? I eat natural, 'normal' food for much less than $10 per day, and I live in one of the most expensive cities in the world. PS That said, I'm intrigued by Soylent and would like to try it -- although not at its current price point.

mberning 13y ago
The idea that you can consistently get away with 15 minutes of prep time for each meal is a pipe dream. Unless you are eating the most simple and monotonous diet imaginable. If you have any kind of variety in your diet you can expect that some meals take an hour or more to prepare.

rsynnott 13y ago

> Not everybody has 5 hours a day or a stay-at-home wife to cook their Whole Foods organic produce into a masterpiece of nutrition. I'm guessing from this that you've never cooked in your life? (Hint: Pretty much nobody cooks five hours a day unless it is their job. I mostly cook for myself, and I don't think I've ever really spent more than 30 minutes of active work on it).

jurassic 13y ago
From these humorless responses it seems the hyperbole of my last sentence has been lost, but I stand by the sentiment that educating yourself about healthy eating and then executing a varied and healthful diet (including the fully loaded time cost of planning, shopping more often for fresh ingredients, cooking, and cleaning up) is a serious undertaking that few people have the time or inclination to pull off on a regular basis. This is complicated by the reality that nutrition is a field of many opinions, conventional wisdom and anti-conventional health movements (raw foodism, veganism, vegetarianism, keto, paleo, etc), and almost no reliable truths. Everyone here saying anything along the lines of "ZOMG, my healthy meals like toast+juice only take me 15 minutes each" has no idea what they are talking about. The list of healthy whole foods (those that don't come out of boxes or bags) that can be prepped and cooked and cleaned in 15 minutes is a short one. I know because I spend a lot of time planning, shopping, and cooking a variety of foods. If anyone cares, right now I eat 90% paleo with occasional dairy and legumes. For years I was involved in veganism/vegetarianism, but quit when I realized it was more like a food religion than a rational healthy choice. Think of the average grocery store. All that crap lining the aisle shelves is going to get bought by somebody, and even if we allow for the longer "residence time" of packaged food products compared to fresh produce/meats we can infer that the average shopper is leaving with the preparations for a depressingly monotonous and nutritionally poor diet of mostly corn-derivatives, flour, and sugar. If you had to empty out a standard grocery store one cart at a time, the average haul would be far worse than anything the writer admits eating. As fun as it is to get self righteous about food ideology, anybody who actually thinks the writer's diet is poor in comparison to the average American diet isn't thinking far enough beyond their own experience.