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Even if you have other valid points, please take the conspiracy theories elsewhere. It just weakens your argument.

by mbreese 13y ago

samstave 13y ago
You're calling it a conspiracy theory simply because you have not followed what has actually happened. Every thing I wrote there is actual history.
- dragonwriter 13y ago
  > Every thing I wrote there is actual history. The one thing I see that is an easily verifiable fact claim in your post, to wit, "the DHS was built to encapsulate all intel services under one branch, and under one puppet of the CIA cabal," is clearly false, since: * At the time DHS was formed in 2002, all intel services were (as members of the "US intelligence community"), already had a single head, the Director of Central Intelligence. This did not change with the formation of DHS. * Both before and after the formation of DHS, the agencies making up the US intelligence community were scattered among numerous cabinet level departments (in the post-DHS-formation period, this includes the Departments of Homeland Security, Defense, State, Energy, Justice, and Treasury), plus the CIA (which is not part of any department.) * After the formation of DHS, in 2005, the DCI's role as head of the Intelligence Community was shifted to the newly created positon of the Direct of National Intelligence (DNI), a position separate from the leadership of any particular Intelligence Community member like the CIA.
  - samstave 13y ago
    It was a coup. Who was the first head of DHS? Where did he come from? Who put him there? Why? It goes all the way back to his role in 'Nam and who he worked for there... Once they setup the structure, with the DHS, then later creating the DNI - they created a separate entity that serves the goals of the cabal, Carlye is just a main face of that. It was all about creating a structure that put true power in the hands of something outside the previous branches.

Even if you have other valid points, please take the conspiracy theories elsewhere. It just weakens your argument.

by mbreese 13y ago

Even if you have other valid points, please take the conspiracy theories elsewhere. It just weakens your argument.

You're calling it a conspiracy theory simply because you have not followed what has actually happened. Every thing I wrote there is actual history.

dragonwriter 13y ago
> Every thing I wrote there is actual history. The one thing I see that is an easily verifiable fact claim in your post, to wit, "the DHS was built to encapsulate all intel services under one branch, and under one puppet of the CIA cabal," is clearly false, since: * At the time DHS was formed in 2002, all intel services were (as members of the "US intelligence community"), already had a single head, the Director of Central Intelligence. This did not change with the formation of DHS. * Both before and after the formation of DHS, the agencies making up the US intelligence community were scattered among numerous cabinet level departments (in the post-DHS-formation period, this includes the Departments of Homeland Security, Defense, State, Energy, Justice, and Treasury), plus the CIA (which is not part of any department.) * After the formation of DHS, in 2005, the DCI's role as head of the Intelligence Community was shifted to the newly created positon of the Direct of National Intelligence (DNI), a position separate from the leadership of any particular Intelligence Community member like the CIA.
- samstave 13y ago
  It was a coup. Who was the first head of DHS? Where did he come from? Who put him there? Why? It goes all the way back to his role in 'Nam and who he worked for there... Once they setup the structure, with the DHS, then later creating the DNI - they created a separate entity that serves the goals of the cabal, Carlye is just a main face of that. It was all about creating a structure that put true power in the hands of something outside the previous branches.