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The bunch has lost the plot years ago: the hijacking of HTML and [ecma|java]script has done already the damage to the initial "universal access" that made the W

by Create 17y ago

The bunch has lost the plot years ago: the hijacking of HTML and [ecma|java]script has done already the damage to the initial "universal access" that made the Web popular in the first place. Try browsing this web without subordinating yourself to Adobe Inc.'s unilaterally imposed licensing...

anigbrowl 17y ago
As a beta tester for the original Mozilla when there were about 10 websites (and I was too unimaginative to exploit it profitably), I had trouble selling people on the idea at first, because that functionality existed (in distributed form) with WAIS, Archie, Veronica, and something else whose name I forget right now. There was a parallel with the problems you mention in that the www looked like eye candy but didn't deliver much obvious new functionality; however, the eye candy served the important function of making things much more attractive and accessible to an audience, whereas effectively using the services mentioned above required a kind of command-line machismo that most people had no wish to acquire - and so those services which delivered information of equivalent or better quality to that available on the web withered away because their cost:benefit ratio was too high. I think TB-L is on the right track here because although much content of value is silo-ed in multiple ways, once there is enough good open-source (or 'linked data' or whatever you like to call it) material available, people will either abandon or never get into the websites which provide it.
- wheels 17y ago
  once there is enough good open-source (or 'linked data' or whatever you like to call it) material available As far as I understand things, linked data is just a euphemism for RDF (or RDF + microformats), and there's no shortage of open source RDF implementations.
  - CaptSolo 17y ago
    http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html

by Create 17y ago

anigbrowl 17y ago

As a beta tester for the original Mozilla when there were about 10 websites (and I was too unimaginative to exploit it profitably), I had trouble selling people on the idea at first, because that functionality existed (in distributed form) with WAIS, Archie, Veronica, and something else whose name I forget right now. There was a parallel with the problems you mention in that the www looked like eye candy but didn't deliver much obvious new functionality; however, the eye candy served the important function of making things much more attractive and accessible to an audience, whereas effectively using the services mentioned above required a kind of command-line machismo that most people had no wish to acquire - and so those services which delivered information of equivalent or better quality to that available on the web withered away because their cost:benefit ratio was too high. I think TB-L is on the right track here because although much content of value is silo-ed in multiple ways, once there is enough good open-source (or 'linked data' or whatever you like to call it) material available, people will either abandon or never get into the websites which provide it.

wheels 17y ago
once there is enough good open-source (or 'linked data' or whatever you like to call it) material available As far as I understand things, linked data is just a euphemism for RDF (or RDF + microformats), and there's no shortage of open source RDF implementations.
- CaptSolo 17y ago
  http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html