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"A Home Office spokesperson said: "The government and the police have a duty to protect the public and our national security." It's starting to really piss me

by devx 13y ago

"A Home Office spokesperson said: "The government and the police have a duty to protect the public and our national security." It's starting to really piss me off how these governments think they can do anything as long as they mention "national security" in their public statements. It's like they think we're all morons and we'll actually believe it everytime they say it. Commenters here on HN saying terrorism should be treated as any other crime are rights. Eliminate all "special terrorist-laws", and you'll stop these abuses.

k-mcgrady 13y ago
Another problem with the blatant over use of terrorism and national security is that people are finally starting to realise it's bullshit. When there is actual legitimate concern of terrorism or fear for national security people will ignore it. No doubt they'll invent another phrase to get their point across and we'll go through the same cycle of overuse again.
- joering2 13y ago
  > people are finally starting to realise it's bullshit Unfortunately when this happens, we have white flag terrorist event happening, caused and sponsored by government, just to put people back in their places. It seems to always work :( I really don't know what the solution is, but this is not about pushing the switch that will always jump back (if you understand my analogy). We all need to come together and push it so hard that it will immediately switch over to the other side. Those in charge who says that kind of bullshit will stand on our side. Military called in to "cleanup" will refuse. Those who are about to declare "martial law" will declare those who tired to gave that order, terrorists. This is the only change that, at this point, will work. Any other attempt will put you in jail for long time or life, will get your belonging confiscated, your family scrutinized and God knows what else.
  - dredmorbius 13y ago
    we have white flag terrorist event happening I believe the phrase you're looking for is "false flag" or "black flag".

by devx 13y ago

k-mcgrady 13y ago

Another problem with the blatant over use of terrorism and national security is that people are finally starting to realise it's bullshit. When there is actual legitimate concern of terrorism or fear for national security people will ignore it. No doubt they'll invent another phrase to get their point across and we'll go through the same cycle of overuse again.

joering2 13y ago
> people are finally starting to realise it's bullshit Unfortunately when this happens, we have white flag terrorist event happening, caused and sponsored by government, just to put people back in their places. It seems to always work :( I really don't know what the solution is, but this is not about pushing the switch that will always jump back (if you understand my analogy). We all need to come together and push it so hard that it will immediately switch over to the other side. Those in charge who says that kind of bullshit will stand on our side. Military called in to "cleanup" will refuse. Those who are about to declare "martial law" will declare those who tired to gave that order, terrorists. This is the only change that, at this point, will work. Any other attempt will put you in jail for long time or life, will get your belonging confiscated, your family scrutinized and God knows what else.
- dredmorbius 13y ago
  we have white flag terrorist event happening I believe the phrase you're looking for is "false flag" or "black flag".