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>Well, ignoring the meaningless guilt by association tactics ("fox-news-worthy neocon propaganda") this tactic was unintended. can you please elaborate more on

by indlebe 13y ago

>Well, ignoring the meaningless guilt by association tactics ("fox-news-worthy neocon propaganda") this tactic was unintended. can you please elaborate more on how this is that? >Pepsi in schools is a non-issue to me. My problem there is the schools themselves - this is a different argument, and I'll have it in a different comment if you want to have it. So no, I don't think it should be banned. i agree that the problem is the schools themselves (however I am interested in your thoughts/opinions there) but i do think extremely unhealthy drinks that impede normal child growth should be banned from publicly funded institutions. >First, I think the right/left political system in America implied by your choice of topics is a false dichotomy agreed. i recognize this now. please see the edit to my post. thank you.

benaiah 13y ago
First, thanks for being a quite reasonable commenter. The guilt by association essentially means it seemed were implying that because I espoused certain views also espoused by a certain political party (i.e., my comment about disliking government interference in healthcare), I was thus espousing "fox-news-worthy neocon propaganda". I don't side with the GOP or Fox News on any sort of comprehensive basis, and I think there's plenty of reasonable discussion to be had on these issues, and there are reasonable thinkers on the other side of some of these issues, if you're willing to look past the unreasonable ones. There's crazy people on your side of the aisle, too. Back to Pepsi/schools: When I said the problem was with the schools themselves, I meant the idea of public education in the first place. I don't think I should be forced to send my child to a government institution to learn (this battle's been mostly won). I don't think I should have to pay for education for the rest (not even close). I think the idea of government having even the tiniest bit of control over education is abhorrent. Education needs to be independent of government the same way journalism needs to be independent of government - because it shapes the thoughts of the nation, and it is astoundingly foolish to give any control of thought to the organization whose only limit is the reasoned thoughts of its populace. It was seen vividly recently, as the hyper-liberal NEA began to bring political pressure on the children of the nation to support a specific political party, all while in a near-mandatory system that is paid for by our tax dollars. The alternative I would pose is literally any form of private education - both homeschooling and church schools have far longer and better track records than public education, which only stems back, in its modern, Prussian form, to the early 19th century. So in other words, the Pepsi isn't really the issue there.
- indlebe 13y ago
  Thank-you for replying again! >The guilt by association essentially...... I'm sorry that I implied that, i did not mean to. I was trying to give an example of the type of articles that I would not want to see one HN. Re: public schools. I completely agree with you. thanks for elaborating. I wouldn't ever dream of raising a child if i thought i would have to put them in public school. Mind you even then I would only dream ;). well you've helped me realize how I can better express my thoughts and have also changed my mind on a few things. cheers.

by indlebe 13y ago

benaiah 13y ago

First, thanks for being a quite reasonable commenter. The guilt by association essentially means it seemed were implying that because I espoused certain views also espoused by a certain political party (i.e., my comment about disliking government interference in healthcare), I was thus espousing "fox-news-worthy neocon propaganda". I don't side with the GOP or Fox News on any sort of comprehensive basis, and I think there's plenty of reasonable discussion to be had on these issues, and there are reasonable thinkers on the other side of some of these issues, if you're willing to look past the unreasonable ones. There's crazy people on your side of the aisle, too. Back to Pepsi/schools: When I said the problem was with the schools themselves, I meant the idea of public education in the first place. I don't think I should be forced to send my child to a government institution to learn (this battle's been mostly won). I don't think I should have to pay for education for the rest (not even close). I think the idea of government having even the tiniest bit of control over education is abhorrent. Education needs to be independent of government the same way journalism needs to be independent of government - because it shapes the thoughts of the nation, and it is astoundingly foolish to give any control of thought to the organization whose only limit is the reasoned thoughts of its populace. It was seen vividly recently, as the hyper-liberal NEA began to bring political pressure on the children of the nation to support a specific political party, all while in a near-mandatory system that is paid for by our tax dollars. The alternative I would pose is literally any form of private education - both homeschooling and church schools have far longer and better track records than public education, which only stems back, in its modern, Prussian form, to the early 19th century. So in other words, the Pepsi isn't really the issue there.

indlebe 13y ago
Thank-you for replying again! >The guilt by association essentially...... I'm sorry that I implied that, i did not mean to. I was trying to give an example of the type of articles that I would not want to see one HN. Re: public schools. I completely agree with you. thanks for elaborating. I wouldn't ever dream of raising a child if i thought i would have to put them in public school. Mind you even then I would only dream ;). well you've helped me realize how I can better express my thoughts and have also changed my mind on a few things. cheers.