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"Every one of the downvotes this post gets are because this post runs counter to the HN echo chamber." It seems ironic to me that you make this statement (whic
by nocman 13y ago
"Every one of the downvotes this post gets are because this post runs counter to the HN echo chamber."
It seems ironic to me that you make this statement (which would you could not possibly know to be true without being omiscient), and then add:
"... hell if anyone will say anything that may disagree with all that anger boiling up inside you."
While there are no doubt many ex-Google (and ex-other-high-profile-company) employees who put out poorly-worded and sometimes poorly-defended rants which in the end serve little purpose other than to vent their own frustration, I do not think you can lump Stephan's post in with them.
I have followed Stephan's work for many years. He is one of those rare developers who actually enjoys putting out high volumes of good documentation (which he readily admits on his own web sites). He appears to be passionately invested in every open source project he contributes to, and is quick to invest large quantities of his own time in helping others to use the code he has made generously available for others to use (much of it in the public domain, btw). I do not always agree with everything he says, but I give him great credit for his generousity.
While he may like to see himself given some credit for his contributions (who doesn't), he doesn't much struck me as the narcissistic type. Overall the interactions I've had with him (and the ones I've read online) have been quite civil. Occasionally, such as in this post, his passion for what he believes comes to the fore, and I suppose that might turn some off. However, I don't consider this post to be too far over-the-top, and it is obvious that he is trying to express a great deal of frustration while attempting to remain as civil as possbile. I think he at least mostly achieved that goal.
It is a difficult thing to abandon a project you have invested a lot of time in for over four years, especially when you feel the project could have easily been so much more if circumstances beyond your control would have been different.
Also, I don't think posts such as Stephan's ever need to have an effect on the offending party's behavior (in this case, Google and/or the V8 developer). There are many developers who have an interest in using and/or embedding V8 in their software, and having these insights into possible problems with doing so is worthwhile information by itself. The fact that Node.js uses V8 makes this information valuable in my opinion.
IMHO you owe it to yourself to take a look at Stephan's work (both inside and outside the v8-juice project), and perhaps form a different opinion.
- sgbeal 13y agoA very heartfelt thank you for your depiction and endorsement. :) PS: i don't always agree with everything i say, either ;)
- nocman 13y agohehe. You've got that problem too, eh? Oh, and you're very welcome. BTW, the post should read "he doesn't much strike me as ...", "not he doesn't much struck me as ..." -- one of the problems of editing a post too many times. I can't figure out how to edit the post, so I guess I'll just leave it for humor's sake. :-D
- sgbeal 13y agoNo worries - i didn't notice the typo. It seems that comment editing expires after a short time, so you've gotta be fast. i tried it, too ;).