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To be honest it was confusing as hell because they said partner and his name is Miranda, more commonly a girls name. Seriously, boyfriend or husband, partner ju

by mitchty 13y ago

To be honest it was confusing as hell because they said partner and his name is Miranda, more commonly a girls name. Seriously, boyfriend or husband, partner just sounds like some live in person or like you said business related. I'm also amused by just how hard these reporters seem to even avoid pronouns or other language that would indicate his gender. Strikes me as really really odd.

outside1234 13y ago
I'm not British but I lived in London for two years and I believe this is the way the British say "significant other." Its pretty forward thinking actually, because they use it for all of the options and therefore take the stigma out of same-sex couples using it to refer to themselves.
- scottmcf 13y ago
  It is, however, far more commonly used when referring to same-sex couples.
  - epo 13y ago
    No, it's not.
alan_cx 13y ago
Yep, hands up, took me a while too. I wonder if the media and/or government(s) were bending over backwards to make damn sure no one could be accused of homophobia. Dunno about the US, but in the UK, if there were the slightest smell of homophobia, a whole new can of worms would have been opened. The gay rights folk would have, rightly IMHO, exploded, with quite a lot of public support. Oddly, I reckon if this had been some how made a gay issue, the government would have been in a lot more trouble. Last thing this UK government in particular wants is any more controversy over gay rights issues. Lining it to the spying would be both explosive, and kinda 1960's traditional!!! Or perhaps some credit is due in that some parts of the media have simply grown up, and the gay part really is a non issue. Which would be a good thing.
- mitchty 13y ago
  While I'd love to think the media has grown up, the past few years haven't given me much hope. :)
- vidarh 13y ago
  Even the Daily Mail's coverage was surprisingly good (I looked at it explicitly expecting a total hatchet job). You know they government has fucked this up when even the Daily Mail writes an article that sympathetic about terror law abuses directed at a gay couple closely linked to the Guardian.
pessimizer 13y ago
David Miranda.
- jusben1369 13y ago
  Hey @drivebyacct2 you're account is dead just FYI.
  - jlgreco 13y ago
    He's been told more times than I can count at this point. I think he's decided that he doesn't care.
    - jusben1369 13y ago
      Oh ok.
    - drivebyacct2 13y ago
      I'm sorry, it's only the second time I've noticed anyone trying to alert me. I was kind of using the hellbanned account for a reason (I'm too insulted by the policy to "beg" to be unbanned and I'm too amazed at the stupidity of using a rate/slow ban simultaneously with a hellban). Further, if I wanted, I would just register troll accounts since no one will take my suggestion to make them read-only for a certain time period. But, despite being too mean in that thread two months ago, I'm not that big of a dick. Though I do feel like a jerk if my replies are polluting threads with other people trying to inform me. Damned if I do, damned if I don't. Sorry guys.
drivebyacct2 13y ago
(This isn't meant to be attacking towards you, I use "you" generally here) Partner is the only gender neutral way of expressing this thought. (Yes, it matters. Ask me "Do you have a wife?" and "Do you have a partner?" and see which one makes me [and others] uncomfortable). * Every time you make gender assumptions, you're forcing someone to have to out themselves. It's why it's polite to strive for gender neutrality. * is certainly a personal problem, but it's one that I have to deal with weekly and it's extremely uncomfortable. My coworker stood in my office and told me about how she doesn't like American TV and went on and on about Glee because it had "homos" in it. Imagine how I felt the next day when she was making small talk and asked if I had a girl friend. "Um, no, I'm not dating anyone now" [followed by 4 hours of shame, great]
hyperventilator 13y ago
drivebyacct2 you are hellbanned. >Partner is the only gender neutral way of expressing this thought Not really. Significant other does the job fine and cannot be confused with a business partner.

by mitchty 13y ago

outside1234 13y ago

I'm not British but I lived in London for two years and I believe this is the way the British say "significant other." Its pretty forward thinking actually, because they use it for all of the options and therefore take the stigma out of same-sex couples using it to refer to themselves.

scottmcf 13y ago
It is, however, far more commonly used when referring to same-sex couples.
- epo 13y ago
  No, it's not.

alan_cx 13y ago

Yep, hands up, took me a while too. I wonder if the media and/or government(s) were bending over backwards to make damn sure no one could be accused of homophobia. Dunno about the US, but in the UK, if there were the slightest smell of homophobia, a whole new can of worms would have been opened. The gay rights folk would have, rightly IMHO, exploded, with quite a lot of public support. Oddly, I reckon if this had been some how made a gay issue, the government would have been in a lot more trouble. Last thing this UK government in particular wants is any more controversy over gay rights issues. Lining it to the spying would be both explosive, and kinda 1960's traditional!!! Or perhaps some credit is due in that some parts of the media have simply grown up, and the gay part really is a non issue. Which would be a good thing.

mitchty 13y ago
While I'd love to think the media has grown up, the past few years haven't given me much hope. :)
vidarh 13y ago
Even the Daily Mail's coverage was surprisingly good (I looked at it explicitly expecting a total hatchet job). You know they government has fucked this up when even the Daily Mail writes an article that sympathetic about terror law abuses directed at a gay couple closely linked to the Guardian.

pessimizer 13y ago

David Miranda.

jusben1369 13y ago
Hey @drivebyacct2 you're account is dead just FYI.
- jlgreco 13y ago
  He's been told more times than I can count at this point. I think he's decided that he doesn't care.
  - jusben1369 13y ago
    Oh ok.
  - drivebyacct2 13y ago
    I'm sorry, it's only the second time I've noticed anyone trying to alert me. I was kind of using the hellbanned account for a reason (I'm too insulted by the policy to "beg" to be unbanned and I'm too amazed at the stupidity of using a rate/slow ban simultaneously with a hellban). Further, if I wanted, I would just register troll accounts since no one will take my suggestion to make them read-only for a certain time period. But, despite being too mean in that thread two months ago, I'm not that big of a dick. Though I do feel like a jerk if my replies are polluting threads with other people trying to inform me. Damned if I do, damned if I don't. Sorry guys.

drivebyacct2 13y ago

(This isn't meant to be attacking towards you, I use "you" generally here) Partner is the only gender neutral way of expressing this thought. (Yes, it matters. Ask me "Do you have a wife?" and "Do you have a partner?" and see which one makes me [and others] uncomfortable). * Every time you make gender assumptions, you're forcing someone to have to out themselves. It's why it's polite to strive for gender neutrality. * is certainly a personal problem, but it's one that I have to deal with weekly and it's extremely uncomfortable. My coworker stood in my office and told me about how she doesn't like American TV and went on and on about Glee because it had "homos" in it. Imagine how I felt the next day when she was making small talk and asked if I had a girl friend. "Um, no, I'm not dating anyone now" [followed by 4 hours of shame, great]

hyperventilator 13y ago

drivebyacct2 you are hellbanned. >Partner is the only gender neutral way of expressing this thought Not really. Significant other does the job fine and cannot be confused with a business partner.