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Here we go again. Musk is going to invite all the same criticism and all the same premature skepticism that all new Apple products always did. The critics neve

Here we go again. Musk is going to invite all the same criticism and all the same premature skepticism that all new Apple products always did. The critics never learned and Apple never failed to exceed expectations. I haven't studied the physics of hyperloop. Nor am I going to. I just don't have the 'head' for it. But I've observed Musk, and if he says he can make it work, or is going to find a way, then i'm absolutely positive he's going to figure it out. This is what it takes to move the human race forward. Dealing with extreme cases of uncertainty and pushing ahead regardless. We need people like this in our lives. The world and the human race needs it. The article says far more about the blog author than it does about Musk. Let it go!

dragonwriter 13y ago
> But I've observed Musk, and if he says he can make it work Even if such blind faith was justified, he hasn't said that. Initially, he said "hey, here's this idea that would work better than CA HSR, but I'm not going to work on it." When the fact that he said he wasn't going to to work on it became part of the grounds for people dismissing it, he changed tack a bit and said he would work on a tech demonstration. But he still has gone nowhere close to saying that he is going to make it work as a project, or even put energy into to getting making it a real project. > This is what it takes to move the human race forward. Dealing with extreme cases of uncertainty and pushing ahead regardless. There's a difference between extreme uncertainty and certainty that basic bits of what is necessary for what you claim a system is going to deliver are missing. Like, in the case of a supposed SF-to-LA-faster-than-HSR system, actually having connections into the parts of SF-to-LA where people are and/or want to go that allow you to move between them faster than HSR would... And not having vomit-inducing acceleration profiles... Etc. "Uncertainty" isn't the main issue with the Hyperloop proposal; the parts that are certain-and-wrong are a much bigger deal.
- krmmalik 13y ago
  OK, that's a fair enough point. I can't argue with it.
dalke 13y ago
"Apple never failed to exceed expectations" Really? The Lisa, Apple III, Apple USB Mouse, MobileMe, and Apple TV all exceeded expectations? Most people consider that to be a list of Apple failures. How do you say they exceeded expectations?
- krmmalik 13y ago
  There are just as many products that have exceeded expectations that haven't not to mention the fact that i was referring to Apple post Jobs' return. It was a statement more about leadership than about the products in themselves.
  - dalke 13y ago
    Apple USB Mouse, MobileMe, and Apple TV were all under Jobs after his return. So, do you agree with me that your statement "Apple never failed to exceed expectations" is incorrect? If so, then if Apple can have failures under Jobs' leadership then surely Musk can fail, even with great leadership. If not, how did Apple exceed expectations?

dragonwriter 13y ago

> But I've observed Musk, and if he says he can make it work Even if such blind faith was justified, he hasn't said that. Initially, he said "hey, here's this idea that would work better than CA HSR, but I'm not going to work on it." When the fact that he said he wasn't going to to work on it became part of the grounds for people dismissing it, he changed tack a bit and said he would work on a tech demonstration. But he still has gone nowhere close to saying that he is going to make it work as a project, or even put energy into to getting making it a real project. > This is what it takes to move the human race forward. Dealing with extreme cases of uncertainty and pushing ahead regardless. There's a difference between extreme uncertainty and certainty that basic bits of what is necessary for what you claim a system is going to deliver are missing. Like, in the case of a supposed SF-to-LA-faster-than-HSR system, actually having connections into the parts of SF-to-LA where people are and/or want to go that allow you to move between them faster than HSR would... And not having vomit-inducing acceleration profiles... Etc. "Uncertainty" isn't the main issue with the Hyperloop proposal; the parts that are certain-and-wrong are a much bigger deal.

krmmalik 13y ago
OK, that's a fair enough point. I can't argue with it.

dalke 13y ago

"Apple never failed to exceed expectations" Really? The Lisa, Apple III, Apple USB Mouse, MobileMe, and Apple TV all exceeded expectations? Most people consider that to be a list of Apple failures. How do you say they exceeded expectations?

krmmalik 13y ago
There are just as many products that have exceeded expectations that haven't not to mention the fact that i was referring to Apple post Jobs' return. It was a statement more about leadership than about the products in themselves.
- dalke 13y ago
  Apple USB Mouse, MobileMe, and Apple TV were all under Jobs after his return. So, do you agree with me that your statement "Apple never failed to exceed expectations" is incorrect? If so, then if Apple can have failures under Jobs' leadership then surely Musk can fail, even with great leadership. If not, how did Apple exceed expectations?