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Man, that's a collection of utter bullshit. There's nothing lower than preying on the hopes of potentially terminal patients. That last link is sick, there's hu

by nwh 13y ago

Man, that's a collection of utter bullshit. There's nothing lower than preying on the hopes of potentially terminal patients. That last link is sick, there's hundreds of commenters begging for help. ED: For future reference, the deleted post referred to http://cancertutor.com/ http://cancertutor.com/ as a trustworthy source. It also refered to a miracle cancer healer's blog post http://thinkindia.hubpages.com/hub/CANCER-TREATMENT-FOR-FREE http://thinkindia.hubpages.com/hub/CANCER-TREATMENT-FOR-FREE .

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- nwh 13y ago
  I'm sorry, but you're totally and utterly wrong. I've sat in the oncology ward at the Royal Melbourne Hospital for a solid six months and watched scores of patients undergoing the most diabolical treatments anybody could ever conceive. People so blasted by the chemotherapy drugs that they can't even be visited, lest their damaged immune system succumbs to even the weakest of infections. I sat with someone as they dripped blood because there was a severe shortage of platelets and they had none of their own to clot with. If there was a better solution, we'd be using it. You also linked to a site claiming that Autism is caused by vaccinations.
  - conroe64 13y ago
    I don't think you should be so sure that all solutions to cancer have been tried. http://www.sfweekly.com/2013-04-24/news/key-words-cannabis-oil-cure-cancer-constance-finley/ http://www.sfweekly.com/2013-04-24/news/key-words-cannabis-o... There is no money in natural cures, so most researchers don't bother.
    - thomasz 13y ago
      I've read that story a dozen times. There must be some template out there, you just have to find one of those miracle cures and interview the well meaning, eloquent and chatismatic serial killer who promotes his snake oil to desperate people. But for heavens sake, don't ruin your hit piece with basic background checks.
      - conroe64 13y ago
        I am guessing that, without reading it, you summarily dismissed it as identical to other sham stories and go off rant about them all as a collective, not realizing there is a ton of evidence to back up marijuana's role in fighting cancer. And then, of course, this being in the internet and all, you insult the intelligence of the poster. All because it doesn't fit in your world view. Well done, indeed. You have demonstrated you are steeped deeply in the internet culture. Fool.
        vertr07 13y ago
        >And then, of course, this being in the internet and all, you insult the intelligence of the poster. >Fool. Cute.
        thomasz 13y ago
        I'am steeped deeply in having fucking cancer. This is the reason why I am a little invested in such discussions. There are less than a handful of publications about cannabis as cancer treatment, all of them about preclinical research. That's not a ton of evidence. That's just an incredibly small step away from nothing. It does not, for fucks sake, justify advertising this stuff to people who can't think straight because they scared out of their minds.
    - vertr07 13y ago
      >I don't think you should be so sure that all solutions to cancer have been tried. He never said that. >There is no money in natural cures, so most researchers don't bother. Even if this is true, it doesn't mean the natural cures actually exist in a usable way currently.
- vertr07 13y ago
  >Not only is cancer not caused by DNA damage, but safe and gentle natural medicine cancer treatments exist that can revert cancer cells into normal cells. This was first done in the 1930s, but the technology was shut down by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), which is essentially the "police force" of the ultra-wealthy and politically-connected drug companies. Seems legit and not conspiratorial AT ALL.
  - nwh 13y ago
    > When you kill all of the microbes inside of a cancer cell, the cancer cell will revert into a normal cell because there is nothing to block the production of ATP energy. This is the ideal way to cure cancer because there are no dead cells and no debris from dead cells. And another from the same website. > Autism is caused by microbes (e.g. infections in the stomach) and/or metals, such as mercury. They are usually in the stomach, colon, gut, call it what you want. The source of the micobes is usually vaccinations, which will be discussed in the next section. It's like a cesspit of misinformed medical garbage.
  - vertr07 13y ago
    It always astonishes me that texts like this seem legitimate to some people. It's the cures they don't want you to have! Reminds me of this guy: http://www.skepdic.com/trudeau.html http://www.skepdic.com/trudeau.html
    - nwh 13y ago
      It's an interesting bit of human behaviour really. When faced with the knowledge that they are being besieged with malignant cells, people tend to try and find any material that gives some assurance and kind words. The booklets they give you in oncology aren't particularly reassuring, and I haven't even been more than on the slideline with them. You can almost attribute the death of Steve Jobs to this sort of material. His form of pancreatic cancer was, according to his biography, quite treatable with conventional medicine. He instead went off the path and tried to combat it with diet and behaviour, and by the time it became too much for him, the window for conventional medicine was over.
anu_gupta 13y ago
Who was the poster?

by nwh 13y ago

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nwh 13y ago
I'm sorry, but you're totally and utterly wrong. I've sat in the oncology ward at the Royal Melbourne Hospital for a solid six months and watched scores of patients undergoing the most diabolical treatments anybody could ever conceive. People so blasted by the chemotherapy drugs that they can't even be visited, lest their damaged immune system succumbs to even the weakest of infections. I sat with someone as they dripped blood because there was a severe shortage of platelets and they had none of their own to clot with. If there was a better solution, we'd be using it. You also linked to a site claiming that Autism is caused by vaccinations.
- conroe64 13y ago
  I don't think you should be so sure that all solutions to cancer have been tried. http://www.sfweekly.com/2013-04-24/news/key-words-cannabis-oil-cure-cancer-constance-finley/ http://www.sfweekly.com/2013-04-24/news/key-words-cannabis-o... There is no money in natural cures, so most researchers don't bother.
  - thomasz 13y ago
    I've read that story a dozen times. There must be some template out there, you just have to find one of those miracle cures and interview the well meaning, eloquent and chatismatic serial killer who promotes his snake oil to desperate people. But for heavens sake, don't ruin your hit piece with basic background checks.
    - conroe64 13y ago
      I am guessing that, without reading it, you summarily dismissed it as identical to other sham stories and go off rant about them all as a collective, not realizing there is a ton of evidence to back up marijuana's role in fighting cancer. And then, of course, this being in the internet and all, you insult the intelligence of the poster. All because it doesn't fit in your world view. Well done, indeed. You have demonstrated you are steeped deeply in the internet culture. Fool.
      - vertr07 13y ago
        >And then, of course, this being in the internet and all, you insult the intelligence of the poster. >Fool. Cute.
      - thomasz 13y ago
        I'am steeped deeply in having fucking cancer. This is the reason why I am a little invested in such discussions. There are less than a handful of publications about cannabis as cancer treatment, all of them about preclinical research. That's not a ton of evidence. That's just an incredibly small step away from nothing. It does not, for fucks sake, justify advertising this stuff to people who can't think straight because they scared out of their minds.
  - vertr07 13y ago
    >I don't think you should be so sure that all solutions to cancer have been tried. He never said that. >There is no money in natural cures, so most researchers don't bother. Even if this is true, it doesn't mean the natural cures actually exist in a usable way currently.
vertr07 13y ago
>Not only is cancer not caused by DNA damage, but safe and gentle natural medicine cancer treatments exist that can revert cancer cells into normal cells. This was first done in the 1930s, but the technology was shut down by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), which is essentially the "police force" of the ultra-wealthy and politically-connected drug companies. Seems legit and not conspiratorial AT ALL.
- nwh 13y ago
  > When you kill all of the microbes inside of a cancer cell, the cancer cell will revert into a normal cell because there is nothing to block the production of ATP energy. This is the ideal way to cure cancer because there are no dead cells and no debris from dead cells. And another from the same website. > Autism is caused by microbes (e.g. infections in the stomach) and/or metals, such as mercury. They are usually in the stomach, colon, gut, call it what you want. The source of the micobes is usually vaccinations, which will be discussed in the next section. It's like a cesspit of misinformed medical garbage.
- vertr07 13y ago
  It always astonishes me that texts like this seem legitimate to some people. It's the cures they don't want you to have! Reminds me of this guy: http://www.skepdic.com/trudeau.html http://www.skepdic.com/trudeau.html
  - nwh 13y ago
    It's an interesting bit of human behaviour really. When faced with the knowledge that they are being besieged with malignant cells, people tend to try and find any material that gives some assurance and kind words. The booklets they give you in oncology aren't particularly reassuring, and I haven't even been more than on the slideline with them. You can almost attribute the death of Steve Jobs to this sort of material. His form of pancreatic cancer was, according to his biography, quite treatable with conventional medicine. He instead went off the path and tried to combat it with diet and behaviour, and by the time it became too much for him, the window for conventional medicine was over.

anu_gupta 13y ago

Who was the poster?