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carrying an illegal handgun while also dealing would of course not be pardoned Why? If dealing pot shouldn't be a crime, why should being prepared to defend y
by harshreality 13y ago
carrying an illegal handgun while also dealing would of course not be pardoned
Why? If dealing pot shouldn't be a crime, why should being prepared to defend yourself with a handgun while dealing pot be a crime?
I don't understand the "illegal" qualifier. Isn't it always illegal to carry a handgun when dealing pot? Isn't having a handgun while committing a federal crime also a federal crime?
Obviously there are drug dealers who are aggressively violent, but if they haven't been caught for being aggressively violent why should they be punished as if they were? What other aspects of "innocent until proven guilty" should we do away with?
Even violent drug dealers represent a philosophical problem. Practically I don't think I'm willing to support letting them out of prison, but rationally I have some sympathy for some of them. Their involvement in the drug market shouldn't be a crime, and the violence in that profession is almost always due to the fact that it's a black market, with extremely high profit to be made and no legal protection against getting ripped off.
Their aggressive violence is not something to be condoned or accepted in society, but neither are laws that establish black markets that lead to such violence. Drug criminalization advocates claim all sorts of reasons why they're not at fault, from drug dealers being inherently evil due to bad parenting or genetics or whatever, to proximity to the criminal act and free will (no doubt legislators are further removed from the crime than the drug dealer who pulls the trigger). But who's really more at fault? The socially marginalized drug dealer from a relatively poor background who probably had poor schooling, who gets caught up in drug dealing, and who kills someone because his drug organization needs him to? Or a legislator with (supposedly) much more wisdom, who nevertheless votes to create a black market that leads to conditions where violence is commonplace?
I'm not condoning the violence. I simply think the root cause is not the drugs or the guns, or even the drug dealers themselves. Scapegoating gun-carrying drug dealers for the violence is just that... scapegoating. I think it's ultimately unproductive if we want to fix the problem.
- jlgreco 13y agoBecause carrying an illegal/unlicnesed handgun in NYC, with our without also being a drug dealer, is, well, illegal. Maybe that isn't right, but that is the reality of that situation. If this were Vermont that we were talking about, then the situation would be different.
- harshreality 13y agoI take a strongly libertarian view of that issue. Not only should gun carry by itself not be a crime, but the only reason most of these drug dealers carry guns is because they are in a business where the legal system won't protect them, not to mention the reason they usually get caught carrying guns is that they were also involved in drug dealing. Cops go looking for drugs, and they find drugs and guns. If they weren't looking for drugs, they mostly wouldn't find guns either. We're talking about a hypothetical ideal legal policy with regard to drugs, right? Why the return to the status quo the moment guns are in the picture?
- jlgreco 13y agoMy thinking here is that NY changing their pot laws seems more plausible than them changing their gun laws... Certainly changing pot laws is what is being proposed here, not gun laws.