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My powers of whit fall short while trying to express how idiotic this idea is. When I read of this "brilliant" scheme earlier today, I thought it must be April

by teilo 17y ago

My powers of whit fall short while trying to express how idiotic this idea is. When I read of this "brilliant" scheme earlier today, I thought it must be April 1st already. Honestly, is Sun now being run by the marketing department? "Hey, guys, let's do the iPhone/Appstore thing. We'll be the first to do it on the desktop! A sure-fire winner! Besides, if we don't do it first, Adobe will scoop us!" Riiiiight. Sun thinks that they need a Flash killer, something to compete against Adobe Air. And as we all know, Adobe Air has just been sooooo successful on the desktop.

stcredzero 17y ago
If they ditch the Java part, or relegate it to it's rightful place as a tech bullet point, then I think they're onto something. There is a point that would not just be imitation of Apple. There are a lot of users out there who need serious hand-holding -- the kind that they have to bug their tech savvy relatives, pay lots of $$ for, or that they simply don't get right now. If someone can deliver a dead-simple system for getting slick, high-quality, security vetted desktop applications to people, it would serve an urgent need. It doesn't matter if the underlying tech is Java, Python, .Net, whatever. Most people will only care if it's easy and useful. Do most people know or care that much of the iPhone code is Objective-C? Nope. They care that it works. There is a big problem, however. The iPhone App store could get a critical mass of potential users because the hardware was so sexy, people bought the phone even when apps weren't available. What's going to do this for the Java App Store? Are they going to slip it into the JRE? Also, Sun has a history of not being able to make things easy or slick enough for the general populace. Heck, they have a hard time making interfaces gearheads like! "My powers of whit fall short..." Unintentional irony is often the funniest.

by teilo 17y ago

stcredzero 17y ago

If they ditch the Java part, or relegate it to it's rightful place as a tech bullet point, then I think they're onto something. There is a point that would not just be imitation of Apple. There are a lot of users out there who need serious hand-holding -- the kind that they have to bug their tech savvy relatives, pay lots of $$ for, or that they simply don't get right now. If someone can deliver a dead-simple system for getting slick, high-quality, security vetted desktop applications to people, it would serve an urgent need. It doesn't matter if the underlying tech is Java, Python, .Net, whatever. Most people will only care if it's easy and useful. Do most people know or care that much of the iPhone code is Objective-C? Nope. They care that it works. There is a big problem, however. The iPhone App store could get a critical mass of potential users because the hardware was so sexy, people bought the phone even when apps weren't available. What's going to do this for the Java App Store? Are they going to slip it into the JRE? Also, Sun has a history of not being able to make things easy or slick enough for the general populace. Heck, they have a hard time making interfaces gearheads like! "My powers of whit fall short..." Unintentional irony is often the funniest.