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"ratsbane" agrees with "pj", and the world can do nought but comply.... ;-) People do choose to install Adobe Flash into their varied browsers, and they do so

"ratsbane" agrees with "pj", and the world can do nought but comply.... ;-) People do choose to install Adobe Flash into their varied browsers, and they do so successfully and rapidly. It is a real capability in the world today. For every authoritarian iPhone sold, there are forty-odd Flash-enabled phones sold. Not ubiquity yet, but we're getting there. Browser vendors could indeed improve plugin communication for things like prefs-setting, cookie-blocking and so on. Instead Opera, Mozilla, Apple and Google are on a dysfunctional goosechase with VIDEO. <em>"If your web app requires some plugin you WILL lose at least a small part of your target audience."</em> That's true. But it will be more accessible than requiring a browser update, or change in browser brands. Browser plugins let people choose their favorite browser brand, without losing functionality to other brands of browser. It's cross-browser functionality. Plugins enfranchise minority audiences, and makes it easier for minority browser vendors to compete. jd/adobe

tmoertel 17y ago
> Instead Opera, Mozilla, Apple and Google are on a dysfunctional goosechase with VIDEO. I'm sure you hope they're chasing wild geese, but from where I'm sitting, almost all Flash usage on the web, weighted by user volume, falls into two categories: that requiring video, and that which web browsers can already do pretty well without plug-ins. Thus once browsers have semi-decent video support, much of the need for Flash on the web will disappear. If you're holding onto a lot of Adobe options, you might want to hope a little harder about that goose-chase thing. As for me, I'm betting on the browsers and genuinely open standards: so far, that duo has slowly crushed everything else. Gotta love those disruptive technologies.
- fauigerzigerk 17y ago
  The disruption may indeed come, but only when 95% of all users are using an HTML 5 browswer. Happy waiting ;-)

tmoertel 17y ago

> Instead Opera, Mozilla, Apple and Google are on a dysfunctional goosechase with VIDEO. I'm sure you hope they're chasing wild geese, but from where I'm sitting, almost all Flash usage on the web, weighted by user volume, falls into two categories: that requiring video, and that which web browsers can already do pretty well without plug-ins. Thus once browsers have semi-decent video support, much of the need for Flash on the web will disappear. If you're holding onto a lot of Adobe options, you might want to hope a little harder about that goose-chase thing. As for me, I'm betting on the browsers and genuinely open standards: so far, that duo has slowly crushed everything else. Gotta love those disruptive technologies.

fauigerzigerk 17y ago
The disruption may indeed come, but only when 95% of all users are using an HTML 5 browswer. Happy waiting ;-)