Fedora seems to cling to the optical media model, where everything low-level is packaged as a CD or DVD image - installs, spins, and so forth. Bloat tends to a

Fedora seems to cling to the optical media model, where everything low-level is packaged as a CD or DVD image - installs, spins, and so forth. Bloat tends to accumulate to fill up to media sizes, and it is as if USB drives and networks did not exist. I'd be delighted to be able to copy a small image to a USB thumb drive, boot from it, install a very minimal Fedora OS - not even including @Base and @Core by default - basically grub2, kernel, console, and just enough tool-chain to support the yum package manager, then 'yum install' some short lists of packages. Then all of these spins, rings, bubbles, and similar jargon could just be lists of top-level packages (with dependencies implied, not explicitly listed) to feed to 'yum install'. The real 'core' of the OS supports whatever the packagers tend to require, the package/dependency engines become critical to all of the flavors, spins, rings, jargon-du-jour, and the users get to have just what they want installed and no more. No CD or DVD images, less bloat, and and an opportunity for packages to compete on footprint (Foo has 13% fewer dependencies than Bar, Baz installs in half the space of Zap). And Goldilocks and the 3 Bears lived happily ever after :-)