I brought common arguments into the discussion because it is, as with so many things, almost as much a debate about perceptions as it is about substantive facts

I brought common arguments into the discussion because it is, as with so many things, almost as much a debate about perceptions as it is about substantive facts. The number of people who subscribe to wild conspiracy theories, buy fully into the value of the status quo, or maintain more nuanced views, has a big impact on how our societies will develop. Anyway, it seems to me that we largely agree on the appropriate means to desirable ends - nothing too dramatic. Thanks for the discussion!