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What about this is mental illness?

by lolsal 13y ago

ForrestN 13y ago
Everything, from the premise to the details. The grandiosity and self-obsession and narcissism, the delusions about his own motives (which were clearly emotional and painful rather than pseudo-philosophical). Even if you take his argument at face value he is killing himself in response to an ailment that he does not have. His using controversially justified ideas of suicide as a cover for self rage. Edit: I was trying to dissuade people from promoting suicide as an impressively rational response to reaching an age many people consider to be the best years of life. He killed himself, lied to himself about why, and then wrote and painstakingly edited (20 times at least, he says) an massive, elaborate shrine to himself and his own sad death. Yeah, I guess those are both equally narcissistic.
- Zikes 13y ago
  Writing his own biography is no more or less narcissistic than your thinking anyone on the internet cares about your opinion on his writing his biography. Lots of people have personal web sites of their life's accomplishments, they call them "portfolios". Lots of people have an online account of their day-to-day activities, they call them "blogs", "tweets", and "status updates". What Martin Manley has done here is no more or less "self-obsessed" than what you and I do every single day, he only presents it in a manner slightly askew to that with which we are accustomed.
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Tyrannosaurs 13y ago
I don't want to say it is but does it strike you as normal? If you take the whole thing at face value you might say it's rational and logical but without knowing the guy and knowing what he's not said, or what he's distorted (or not), it's impossible to say whether what's true and whether it stacks up. People, even those with mental illness, are often pretty good at creating a logically consistent view of things and building a supporting rationale. But you can take another view - he's smart, at least personable enough to have attracted two wives, has friends and interests, a reasonable level of success and so on and yet has decided while he's still clearly mentally and physically capable, to end his life. And his justification is because he can, because it's a bit neat and so he can leave this website as some sort of legacy. I'm not saying that's a sign of mental illness, but it doesn't sit completely right with me either. Also without being heartless, curious to know if there's any verification of his death (or existence) anywhere. I'm not saying it's a hoax but if someone told me in a couple of days it was I wouldn't be stunned.

What about this is mental illness?

by lolsal 13y ago

What about this is mental illness?

Everything, from the premise to the details. The grandiosity and self-obsession and narcissism, the delusions about his own motives (which were clearly emotional and painful rather than pseudo-philosophical). Even if you take his argument at face value he is killing himself in response to an ailment that he does not have. His using controversially justified ideas of suicide as a cover for self rage. Edit: I was trying to dissuade people from promoting suicide as an impressively rational response to reaching an age many people consider to be the best years of life. He killed himself, lied to himself about why, and then wrote and painstakingly edited (20 times at least, he says) an massive, elaborate shrine to himself and his own sad death. Yeah, I guess those are both equally narcissistic.

Zikes 13y ago
Writing his own biography is no more or less narcissistic than your thinking anyone on the internet cares about your opinion on his writing his biography. Lots of people have personal web sites of their life's accomplishments, they call them "portfolios". Lots of people have an online account of their day-to-day activities, they call them "blogs", "tweets", and "status updates". What Martin Manley has done here is no more or less "self-obsessed" than what you and I do every single day, he only presents it in a manner slightly askew to that with which we are accustomed.

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Tyrannosaurs 13y ago

I don't want to say it is but does it strike you as normal? If you take the whole thing at face value you might say it's rational and logical but without knowing the guy and knowing what he's not said, or what he's distorted (or not), it's impossible to say whether what's true and whether it stacks up. People, even those with mental illness, are often pretty good at creating a logically consistent view of things and building a supporting rationale. But you can take another view - he's smart, at least personable enough to have attracted two wives, has friends and interests, a reasonable level of success and so on and yet has decided while he's still clearly mentally and physically capable, to end his life. And his justification is because he can, because it's a bit neat and so he can leave this website as some sort of legacy. I'm not saying that's a sign of mental illness, but it doesn't sit completely right with me either. Also without being heartless, curious to know if there's any verification of his death (or existence) anywhere. I'm not saying it's a hoax but if someone told me in a couple of days it was I wouldn't be stunned.