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Anything short of a very clear revolution (regarding the NSA and the political system in general) won't solve the real basic issues. I just hope it will be a r

Anything short of a very clear revolution (regarding the NSA and the political system in general) won't solve the real basic issues. I just hope it will be a rational and calm revolution, not a bloody one.

01Michael10 13y ago
There will be no revolution any time soon... Most people are to busy trying to catch up on their TV shows on their DVR. The few issues people do get fired up about are stupid ones (who can get married, fake IRS scandals, justifying shooting kids in the street, etc).
- jimworm 13y ago
  "Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious." -George Orwell, 1984
- a3n 13y ago
  > Most people are to busy trying to catch up on their TV shows on their DVR. Bread and circus. I think you're right, there will be no revolution. But there's a good chance the US Empire will gradually dissolve and collapse in on itself. For example, Congress seems intent on making the governement non-functioning. Perhaps the NSA has a sense of history, and are trying to delay our eventual collapse, thinking that the institution and empire itself is rotten and calcified. But I'm often charitable that way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire > The first two centuries of the Empire were a period of unprecedented stability and prosperity known as the Pax Romana ("Roman Peace").[6] It reached its greatest expanse during the reign of Trajan (98–117 AD). In the 3rd century, the Empire underwent a crisis that threatened its existence, but was reunified and stabilized under the emperors Aurelian and Diocletian. Christians rose to power in the 4th century, during which time a system of dual rule was developed in the Latin West and Greek East. After the collapse of central government in the West in the 5th century, the eastern half of the Roman Empire continued as what would later be known as the Byzantine Empire.
- wallawe 13y ago
  Relevant to your point, Rage Against the Machine had it right a while back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_-QGNUYL5g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_-QGNUYL5g "They load the clip in omnicolour Said they pack the 9, they fire it at prime time"
  - PavlovsCat 13y ago
    That version is blocked in Germany. This one isn't: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0j0GCbMC7A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0j0GCbMC7A Say about RATM (fans) what you will, but this song, and this video of it, still gives me goosebumps. They had it right indeed. Words cannot describe the restraint I'm exercising right now, to not just post lyrics and generally endulge. I know HN is not the place for that, but I still want to leave this here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljQ2DM8Mve4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljQ2DM8Mve4
- Karunamon 13y ago
  Laws concerning marriage equality and use of deadly force are not "stupid" issues.

01Michael10 13y ago

There will be no revolution any time soon... Most people are to busy trying to catch up on their TV shows on their DVR. The few issues people do get fired up about are stupid ones (who can get married, fake IRS scandals, justifying shooting kids in the street, etc).

jimworm 13y ago
"Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious." -George Orwell, 1984
a3n 13y ago
> Most people are to busy trying to catch up on their TV shows on their DVR. Bread and circus. I think you're right, there will be no revolution. But there's a good chance the US Empire will gradually dissolve and collapse in on itself. For example, Congress seems intent on making the governement non-functioning. Perhaps the NSA has a sense of history, and are trying to delay our eventual collapse, thinking that the institution and empire itself is rotten and calcified. But I'm often charitable that way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire > The first two centuries of the Empire were a period of unprecedented stability and prosperity known as the Pax Romana ("Roman Peace").[6] It reached its greatest expanse during the reign of Trajan (98–117 AD). In the 3rd century, the Empire underwent a crisis that threatened its existence, but was reunified and stabilized under the emperors Aurelian and Diocletian. Christians rose to power in the 4th century, during which time a system of dual rule was developed in the Latin West and Greek East. After the collapse of central government in the West in the 5th century, the eastern half of the Roman Empire continued as what would later be known as the Byzantine Empire.
wallawe 13y ago
Relevant to your point, Rage Against the Machine had it right a while back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_-QGNUYL5g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_-QGNUYL5g "They load the clip in omnicolour Said they pack the 9, they fire it at prime time"
- PavlovsCat 13y ago
  That version is blocked in Germany. This one isn't: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0j0GCbMC7A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0j0GCbMC7A Say about RATM (fans) what you will, but this song, and this video of it, still gives me goosebumps. They had it right indeed. Words cannot describe the restraint I'm exercising right now, to not just post lyrics and generally endulge. I know HN is not the place for that, but I still want to leave this here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljQ2DM8Mve4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljQ2DM8Mve4
Karunamon 13y ago
Laws concerning marriage equality and use of deadly force are not "stupid" issues.