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I watched that. Here's my take: Fiance: I am and will continue to sleep with other men. Bukowski: You fing w*re [kicks]. Relationships are hard. While I don'

• mkrecny 13y ago
  Reason for downvote?
  • lotsofcows 13y ago
    Apparently it's acceptable to downvote without providing an argument. It's anonymous and requires no thought so it's very popular.
    • sz4kerto 13y ago
      No, just there are people who understand why physical abuse and violence is not tolerable in _any_ situation, especially not against the weak. People who equate physical and verbal violence (by verbal violence I mean anything not physical) either have no idea what they're talking about or they're mentally ill.
      • mkrecny 13y ago
        I agree, physical and verbal violence should not be equated. But not because verbal violence is clearly less damaging than physical violence. It's complicated, and subjective and different for everyone. I'm totally against _any_ type of violence. But I've met and studied enough people who carry around a lifetime of mental illnesses caused verbal violence (esp. at a young age) to be able to say that one is worse than the other.
      • madaxe 13y ago
        Yes, and those people are the same folks who give women who are violent or abusive to men a free pass, as women can't be violent against men as men are so much stronger than women.
• king_jester 13y ago
  > While I don't agree with physical or verbal abuse, I think in this case Fiance probably hurt Bukowski more with her words than he did with his kick. So you do agree with physical abuse. According to you, if your partner says something that upsets you, its totally OK to hit them. That is domestic abuse 101.
  • mkrecny 13y ago
    > So you do agree with physical abuse. According to you, if your partner says something that upsets you, its totally OK to hit them. That is domestic abuse 101. That's absurd. Where did I say "if your partner says something that upsets you, it's totally OK to hit them"? I stated that: a) Bukowski's fiance probably hurt Bukowski (by stating that she cheats on him) more than he did by kicking her. b) It didn't seem like his reasons for kicking her were because he "thought it was funny to kick women." Please read more carefully before you troll me, sir.
    • king_jester 13y ago
      > a) Bukowski's fiance probably hurt Bukowski (by stating that she cheats on him) more than he did by kicking her. Why would that be relevant whatsoever to why someone kicks their partner? You said you don't agree with abuse as a preface and then immediately put physical abuse on the level with having your feelings hurt by something someone said. I don't know if you yourself has been in an abuse relationship or know anyone that has been, but these kinds of statements happen all the time as a way to create a justification for the abuse inflicted on someone. It's not only abusers that do this, but people that are friends and acquaintances of both the abuser and abused.
      • madaxe 13y ago
        You don't think that screwing around and then rubbing it in your partner's face is abuse?
        • overgryphon 13y ago