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I haven't seen it, but I hope they show in the end that it is just not important to be a successful entrepreneur, but a good human being as well, which Steve Jo

I haven't seen it, but I hope they show in the end that it is just not important to be a successful entrepreneur, but a good human being as well, which Steve Jobs failed miserably at.

checker659 13y ago
You mad bro?
AlexanderDhoore 13y ago
Something Larry Ellison seems to be failing at as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bj239x9aJ4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bj239x9aJ4
- sfjailbird 13y ago
  Yes, I was not surprised to learn Steve Jobs and Larry Ellison were good friends.
  - raverbashing 13y ago
    At least Jobs had taste. One of them gave us Apple, the other, Oracle. Not hard to pick a winner.
    - WalterSear 13y ago
      Oracle is what it is, but your initial assertion is a matter of taste.
      - wslh 13y ago
        Take it easy, but you can't negate the impact that Apple had in our field.
        piyush_soni 13y ago
        Yes, it also had a big impact (of course, negative) on the culture of 'healthy competition' that once used to be the case in the pre-Apple era. Steve Jobs ensured that someone, somewhere is always in a 'face-palm' position reading/hearing about patents on "pinch to zoom", "slide to unlock", rounded corners, icons in a grid, wedge shape, and many more, while they went on to steal more.
        wslh 13y ago
        I think in a different way. Beyond the negative aspects of Apple (and, specifically, every public company in a powerful situation like Microsoft or Google) I thank them for pushing the mobile state of the art forward. In a few years we will have more options with that move.
Steko 13y ago
Steve should kick a puppy at some point in the movie to drive home how irredeemably evil he was. Maybe they could have him wear a black hat the whole time so small children will understand he's the bad guy.
snowwrestler 13y ago
Sure about that? His family clearly loved him and miss him, and so do a lot of the colleagues that spent the most time with him, like Tim Cook and Jony Ive.
- piyush_soni 13y ago
  Have you read his biography by Walter Isaacson? I think there is no doubt in the tech community whatsoever that he was an ass with people, he cheated his own company people, and also his friend Mr. Wozniak. Also, Jony Ive 'considered him' as a friend, but quoting him : "He [Jobs] will go through a process of looking at my ideas and say, 'That's no good. That's not very good. I like that one,'" Ive told Isaacson. "And later I will be sitting in the audience and he will be talking about it as if it was his idea. I pay maniacal attention to where an idea comes from, and I even keep notebooks filled with my ideas. So it hurts when he takes credit for one of my designs."
  - glenra 13y ago
    The Isaacson bio got quite a lot of stuff wrong - both personal and technical stuff. If you haven't yet, I highly recommend John Siracusa's podcast book review "The Wrong Guy": http://5by5.tv/hypercritical/42 http://5by5.tv/hypercritical/42 (skip the first 17.5 minutes to get to the review proper.) (the followup review deals with user responses to the prior one - that one's here: http://5by5.tv/hypercritical/43 http://5by5.tv/hypercritical/43 )

I haven't seen it, but I hope they show in the end that it is just not important to be a successful entrepreneur, but a good human being as well, which Steve Jobs failed miserably at.

checker659 13y ago

You mad bro?

AlexanderDhoore 13y ago

Something Larry Ellison seems to be failing at as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bj239x9aJ4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bj239x9aJ4

sfjailbird 13y ago
Yes, I was not surprised to learn Steve Jobs and Larry Ellison were good friends.
- raverbashing 13y ago
  At least Jobs had taste. One of them gave us Apple, the other, Oracle. Not hard to pick a winner.
  - WalterSear 13y ago
    Oracle is what it is, but your initial assertion is a matter of taste.
    - wslh 13y ago
      Take it easy, but you can't negate the impact that Apple had in our field.
      - piyush_soni 13y ago
        Yes, it also had a big impact (of course, negative) on the culture of 'healthy competition' that once used to be the case in the pre-Apple era. Steve Jobs ensured that someone, somewhere is always in a 'face-palm' position reading/hearing about patents on "pinch to zoom", "slide to unlock", rounded corners, icons in a grid, wedge shape, and many more, while they went on to steal more.
        wslh 13y ago
        I think in a different way. Beyond the negative aspects of Apple (and, specifically, every public company in a powerful situation like Microsoft or Google) I thank them for pushing the mobile state of the art forward. In a few years we will have more options with that move.

Steko 13y ago

Steve should kick a puppy at some point in the movie to drive home how irredeemably evil he was. Maybe they could have him wear a black hat the whole time so small children will understand he's the bad guy.

snowwrestler 13y ago

Sure about that? His family clearly loved him and miss him, and so do a lot of the colleagues that spent the most time with him, like Tim Cook and Jony Ive.

piyush_soni 13y ago
Have you read his biography by Walter Isaacson? I think there is no doubt in the tech community whatsoever that he was an ass with people, he cheated his own company people, and also his friend Mr. Wozniak. Also, Jony Ive 'considered him' as a friend, but quoting him : "He [Jobs] will go through a process of looking at my ideas and say, 'That's no good. That's not very good. I like that one,'" Ive told Isaacson. "And later I will be sitting in the audience and he will be talking about it as if it was his idea. I pay maniacal attention to where an idea comes from, and I even keep notebooks filled with my ideas. So it hurts when he takes credit for one of my designs."
- glenra 13y ago
  The Isaacson bio got quite a lot of stuff wrong - both personal and technical stuff. If you haven't yet, I highly recommend John Siracusa's podcast book review "The Wrong Guy": http://5by5.tv/hypercritical/42 http://5by5.tv/hypercritical/42 (skip the first 17.5 minutes to get to the review proper.) (the followup review deals with user responses to the prior one - that one's here: http://5by5.tv/hypercritical/43 http://5by5.tv/hypercritical/43 )