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This attitude has cost me at least one job offer, but my current situation is good enough that I'm not really interested in doing publicly-visible things just s

This attitude has cost me at least one job offer, but my current situation is good enough that I'm not really interested in doing publicly-visible things just so prospective employers can see it. What can I say, my code goes into private repos, sorry. You reply, I can't offer you a job if I can't see your commits, sorry. Understandable. But then the matter boils down to whether I want the job more, or you want me as an employee more. How good am I and how good are you? I'm not hurting for job offers, but my guess is that you're hurting for developers. Seeing as how you're hiring and all. I agree with the OP that people in our field often bank on the GitHub account and the Macbook as indicators of "developer-ness". The homogeneity of it grosses me out a little, even though I like GitHub and use many Apple products. It's a groupthink thing that I personally try to avoid, but I wouldn't rail against it.

derleth 13y ago
> It's a groupthink thing that I personally try to avoid Because the Good Ol' Boy network of references and handshakes is a groupthink thing you've gamed better.
- badman_ting 13y ago
  Huh, I wonder what that means.
  - jessedhillon 13y ago
    "I'm presumptuous and have little perspective into how work actually gets done," would be a good interpretation.
    - derleth 13y ago
      A Good Ol' Boy network is a wonderful example of groupthink: "If my friends like this person, they must be good!" As opposed to doing your own research and developing your own standards. Maybe other peoples' definitions are different. That doesn't make either of us presumptuous or ignorant, but you could have laid out your definitions before slinging the insults.
      - jack-r-abbit 13y ago
        But the OP that you first insulted made no mention of gaming any such "Good Ol' Boy network" that you envision. Knowing people that make it easier to get your resume in front of the right person or to get an interview is how things are done a lot. It's not gaming anything. And that is nowhere near the same as your "If my friends like this person, they must be good!" example. I've seen plenty of referrals come in for interviews and leave without getting a job.
  - derleth 13y ago
    As I said elsewhere: > A Good Ol' Boy network is a wonderful example of groupthink: "If my friends like this person, they must be good!" > As opposed to doing your own research and developing your own standards. > Maybe other peoples' definitions are different.

derleth 13y ago

> It's a groupthink thing that I personally try to avoid Because the Good Ol' Boy network of references and handshakes is a groupthink thing you've gamed better.

badman_ting 13y ago
Huh, I wonder what that means.
- jessedhillon 13y ago
  "I'm presumptuous and have little perspective into how work actually gets done," would be a good interpretation.
  - derleth 13y ago
    A Good Ol' Boy network is a wonderful example of groupthink: "If my friends like this person, they must be good!" As opposed to doing your own research and developing your own standards. Maybe other peoples' definitions are different. That doesn't make either of us presumptuous or ignorant, but you could have laid out your definitions before slinging the insults.
    - jack-r-abbit 13y ago
      But the OP that you first insulted made no mention of gaming any such "Good Ol' Boy network" that you envision. Knowing people that make it easier to get your resume in front of the right person or to get an interview is how things are done a lot. It's not gaming anything. And that is nowhere near the same as your "If my friends like this person, they must be good!" example. I've seen plenty of referrals come in for interviews and leave without getting a job.
- derleth 13y ago
  As I said elsewhere: > A Good Ol' Boy network is a wonderful example of groupthink: "If my friends like this person, they must be good!" > As opposed to doing your own research and developing your own standards. > Maybe other peoples' definitions are different.