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I don't accept this premise. True sociopaths are typically not "assholes", or someone you don't want to be around. I'd bet this woman is probably VERY charmin

I don't accept this premise. True sociopaths are typically not "assholes", or someone you don't want to be around. I'd bet this woman is probably VERY charming.

chasing 13y ago
Entirely possible. But part of my reaction is due to my not entirely buying that this woman is a "sociopath" and not just an "asshole." As noted elsewhere in this thread, sociopathy is weirdly trendy right now.
freyr 13y ago
She's probably very charming, but on a very superficial level. I've met many people like this, and some of my friends date women like this. They can be fun and exciting at first. But their charm usually wears off very quickly, once their personal motivations (i.e., a singular focus on their personal gain) becomes clear, and it transforms into something quite repellent. The sociopath usually doesn't care once you catch onto them. They're already working new people, or focusing their attention on those who are easiest to manipulate.
frenchy 13y ago
Until you get to know her, and then you realise that she is manipulative and unable to make real friends.
- makerops 13y ago
  I would argue that you would never be able to see the manipulative aspect of her personality clear enough to have it affect the relationship.
davorak 13y ago
What I took away from chasing post was a distast for articles like the linked that describe sociopathy more often in terms considered positive. Traits such as charming, compared to the negative traits such as anti-social, harder to form personal relationships, harder time learning from experience or the other negative traits often found attached to sociopathy in a dictionary. I find this distast understandable because it leads to two or more populations that have desperate definitions of sociopathy and the resultant definition based arguments and disagreements.
arkades 13y ago
"True sociopaths." The state of the peer-reviewed literature on this topic is a pathetic shambles. At this point in time, there isn't a "true" sociopath.

I don't accept this premise. True sociopaths are typically not "assholes", or someone you don't want to be around. I'd bet this woman is probably VERY charming.

chasing 13y ago

Entirely possible. But part of my reaction is due to my not entirely buying that this woman is a "sociopath" and not just an "asshole." As noted elsewhere in this thread, sociopathy is weirdly trendy right now.

freyr 13y ago

She's probably very charming, but on a very superficial level. I've met many people like this, and some of my friends date women like this. They can be fun and exciting at first. But their charm usually wears off very quickly, once their personal motivations (i.e., a singular focus on their personal gain) becomes clear, and it transforms into something quite repellent. The sociopath usually doesn't care once you catch onto them. They're already working new people, or focusing their attention on those who are easiest to manipulate.

frenchy 13y ago

Until you get to know her, and then you realise that she is manipulative and unable to make real friends.

makerops 13y ago
I would argue that you would never be able to see the manipulative aspect of her personality clear enough to have it affect the relationship.

davorak 13y ago

What I took away from chasing post was a distast for articles like the linked that describe sociopathy more often in terms considered positive. Traits such as charming, compared to the negative traits such as anti-social, harder to form personal relationships, harder time learning from experience or the other negative traits often found attached to sociopathy in a dictionary. I find this distast understandable because it leads to two or more populations that have desperate definitions of sociopathy and the resultant definition based arguments and disagreements.

arkades 13y ago

"True sociopaths." The state of the peer-reviewed literature on this topic is a pathetic shambles. At this point in time, there isn't a "true" sociopath.