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That's a gross oversimplification. I actually agree that rich kids will rebel with cocaine and DUI, because I've personally seen it. I have to say that most of

That's a gross oversimplification. I actually agree that rich kids will rebel with cocaine and DUI, because I've personally seen it. I have to say that most of them are useless when it comes to working with them. Time will change that, not me. I don't know any poor kids that hold up convenience stores, but I'm German, so maybe it just doesn't happen here as often. If they do rebel, it's usually based on noncompliance with authority figures, minor theft and drinking/drug use.

hardwaresofton 13y ago
Agreeing here, and though I won't say much about cocaine and DUI (I just haven't had friends that were into that, but I probably wasn't the right kind of wealthy growing up to have those friends) -- I've witnessed more poor kids rebelling against the relative sources of control in their lives, which are often good (things like church, father figures, mother figures) and partaking in cultures that promote almost the opposite of most of the values that they maybe should learn (of course, pinning down what people "ought to" learn/believe is crazy-dangerous territory). I'd make some examples, but I think anyone could think of some easily enough. I also want to note that I haven't technically done any research on this (nevermind the difficulty of properly researching a subject like this with so many factors), so I could be completely wrong.
- solistice 13y ago
  Although this is drifting away from the original topic, let me tell you that wealth is relative, especially in a social context. The bottom line in a social context isn't how much money you have, but how much value you bring to the table. Value is incredibly dependent on a wide range of factors, so you can tweak and specialize for certain situations, adding more than any amount of money could (Compare the value Bill Gates could add to a rap battle with the value Jay Z could add. Bill Gates is massively more wealthy, but in this context, Jay Z has a distinct advantage). Let's apply it to networking. Of course, being valuable businesswise is important, but I can go to a networking event and use my conversational skills and my area knowledge to my advantage."So anybody up for this amazing insider teppan yaki 2 blocks from here? I promise it'll blow your mind." At the end of the evening I'll go home with half a dozen great contacts, which beats 200 cold business cards by lenghts. That's exactly how I ended up with that crowd, but it wasn't actually the network I was aiming for. I was looking for contacts in the nightclub management/ promoting area, but I didn't dismiss them because they were fun at parties, they made me seem more connected, and because their parents were usually businesspeople, which would extend my network into that area. I'd be viewed as a good influence on them, which instantly put me on good terms. I know that sounds awfully calculating, but it generally does when you break down social interactions in that manner. I hope it helps in case you want to do networking.
- amerika_blog 13y ago
  > I've witnessed more poor kids rebelling against the relative sources of control in their lives, which are often good (things like church, father figures, mother figures) and partaking in cultures that promote almost the opposite of most of the values that they maybe should learn (of course, pinning down what people "ought to" learn/believe is crazy-dangerous territory). Exactly my point.

hardwaresofton 13y ago

Agreeing here, and though I won't say much about cocaine and DUI (I just haven't had friends that were into that, but I probably wasn't the right kind of wealthy growing up to have those friends) -- I've witnessed more poor kids rebelling against the relative sources of control in their lives, which are often good (things like church, father figures, mother figures) and partaking in cultures that promote almost the opposite of most of the values that they maybe should learn (of course, pinning down what people "ought to" learn/believe is crazy-dangerous territory). I'd make some examples, but I think anyone could think of some easily enough. I also want to note that I haven't technically done any research on this (nevermind the difficulty of properly researching a subject like this with so many factors), so I could be completely wrong.

solistice 13y ago
Although this is drifting away from the original topic, let me tell you that wealth is relative, especially in a social context. The bottom line in a social context isn't how much money you have, but how much value you bring to the table. Value is incredibly dependent on a wide range of factors, so you can tweak and specialize for certain situations, adding more than any amount of money could (Compare the value Bill Gates could add to a rap battle with the value Jay Z could add. Bill Gates is massively more wealthy, but in this context, Jay Z has a distinct advantage). Let's apply it to networking. Of course, being valuable businesswise is important, but I can go to a networking event and use my conversational skills and my area knowledge to my advantage."So anybody up for this amazing insider teppan yaki 2 blocks from here? I promise it'll blow your mind." At the end of the evening I'll go home with half a dozen great contacts, which beats 200 cold business cards by lenghts. That's exactly how I ended up with that crowd, but it wasn't actually the network I was aiming for. I was looking for contacts in the nightclub management/ promoting area, but I didn't dismiss them because they were fun at parties, they made me seem more connected, and because their parents were usually businesspeople, which would extend my network into that area. I'd be viewed as a good influence on them, which instantly put me on good terms. I know that sounds awfully calculating, but it generally does when you break down social interactions in that manner. I hope it helps in case you want to do networking.
amerika_blog 13y ago
> I've witnessed more poor kids rebelling against the relative sources of control in their lives, which are often good (things like church, father figures, mother figures) and partaking in cultures that promote almost the opposite of most of the values that they maybe should learn (of course, pinning down what people "ought to" learn/believe is crazy-dangerous territory). Exactly my point.