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"It’s a unique combination of breaking rules and being smart that helps you become an entrepreneur" This seems like the key point - you have to be experimental

by ondross 13y ago

"It’s a unique combination of breaking rules and being smart that helps you become an entrepreneur" This seems like the key point - you have to be experimental, non-risk-averse, and a little stubborn. Plus both activities are tons of fun!

hardwaresofton 13y ago
True, and a non-class-minded non-critical mind might take just that away from it, but I think it's really apparent that they are skirting the entire perspective (of what happens to a probably larger swath of youths) -- they "broke the rules" and got away with it, which enabled them to go on to success. To take it even farther (because this wouldn't be the internet if I weren't trying to one up everyone including myself): Stoners have great ideas, some stoners go to jail for petty posession 3 times and do not get much of a chance at life after being incarcerated. I don't think I need to point out which stoners end up going to jail, and which get a slap on the wrist and get to smoke on a college campus later. I'm really not trying to enrage anyone -- I just think this article was super unbalanced
- cstavish 13y ago
  I can't upvote this enough. I know about a lot of behavior that occurs inside and outside of private high schools that goes unchecked or loosely-punished, instead of resulting in police action at most public schools (poor or not). Nothing against the more privileged kids--I don't think a lot of the "troubling" behavior listed in the article is all that problematic (barring shoplifting and assault of course).
niels_olson 13y ago
You also need 1) the resources to survive some bad outcomes early and 2) the profile of an otherwise low-risk person, which helps mitigate a lot of close calls and a few additional bad outcomes. Those are what poor kids don't have.
poetiq 13y ago
I like how you changed "breaking rules" to "non-risk-adverse" :P Although it does make me wonder the degree of correlation between troubled teens, lack of moral compass, and entrepreneur.
- nanomage 13y ago
  I don 't believe it's 'lack of moral compass' for this equation. It's such a tricky pot. What would this missing moral compass entail? drugs, privacy, sexual morals? I would argue that a stronger internal sense of morality helps one find these cracks in the system to become entrepreneur. A lack of moral compass would mean one would do whatever it takes without bounds to achieve the desired outcome. NSA, Crack Dealers, A strong internal moral compass would let someone think it's not a bad thing to grow pot and sell it(George Washington), protect their wealth during hyperinflation with bit-coin (Argentina, Greece), Bring cheep education to the masses (OCW, Schwartz). I think the idea you are looking for is: socially suggested morals. But the 'troubled' kids are smart enough to question what they see, open enough to imagine a better way, stubborn enough to not listen to nay-sayers without good arguments.

by ondross 13y ago

hardwaresofton 13y ago

True, and a non-class-minded non-critical mind might take just that away from it, but I think it's really apparent that they are skirting the entire perspective (of what happens to a probably larger swath of youths) -- they "broke the rules" and got away with it, which enabled them to go on to success. To take it even farther (because this wouldn't be the internet if I weren't trying to one up everyone including myself): Stoners have great ideas, some stoners go to jail for petty posession 3 times and do not get much of a chance at life after being incarcerated. I don't think I need to point out which stoners end up going to jail, and which get a slap on the wrist and get to smoke on a college campus later. I'm really not trying to enrage anyone -- I just think this article was super unbalanced

cstavish 13y ago
I can't upvote this enough. I know about a lot of behavior that occurs inside and outside of private high schools that goes unchecked or loosely-punished, instead of resulting in police action at most public schools (poor or not). Nothing against the more privileged kids--I don't think a lot of the "troubling" behavior listed in the article is all that problematic (barring shoplifting and assault of course).

niels_olson 13y ago

You also need 1) the resources to survive some bad outcomes early and 2) the profile of an otherwise low-risk person, which helps mitigate a lot of close calls and a few additional bad outcomes. Those are what poor kids don't have.

poetiq 13y ago

I like how you changed "breaking rules" to "non-risk-adverse" :P Although it does make me wonder the degree of correlation between troubled teens, lack of moral compass, and entrepreneur.

nanomage 13y ago
I don 't believe it's 'lack of moral compass' for this equation. It's such a tricky pot. What would this missing moral compass entail? drugs, privacy, sexual morals? I would argue that a stronger internal sense of morality helps one find these cracks in the system to become entrepreneur. A lack of moral compass would mean one would do whatever it takes without bounds to achieve the desired outcome. NSA, Crack Dealers, A strong internal moral compass would let someone think it's not a bad thing to grow pot and sell it(George Washington), protect their wealth during hyperinflation with bit-coin (Argentina, Greece), Bring cheep education to the masses (OCW, Schwartz). I think the idea you are looking for is: socially suggested morals. But the 'troubled' kids are smart enough to question what they see, open enough to imagine a better way, stubborn enough to not listen to nay-sayers without good arguments.