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I do get the point about qualitative vs quantitative. In the case of screen resolution and web browsing I think they come closer than in other cases. Most web p

by dejb 17y ago

I do get the point about qualitative vs quantitative. In the case of screen resolution and web browsing I think they come closer than in other cases. Most web pages are design to work on screens of 1024 so presumably this width on a phone would allow you to see the page exactly as intended. Admittedly it would be pretty small but I think of would still be a big advantage. I'd still like for someone to let me know if you can get WinMo phones in the US? Everything in this whole crazy iPhone saga would start to fall into place for me if that was the case. I can still remember watching that first Jobs speech and wondering what all the fuss was about when the trusty imate sitting in my pocket could already run arbitrary software.

axod 17y ago
Wake up call: average users don't give a damn if a phone can run arbitrary software.
- dejb 17y ago
  No just the particular software they want. Whatever they want. Why should anyone else be able to stop them? You don't agree with the concept of freedom axod? Who needs to wake up?
  - axod 17y ago
    WWW. Freedom. The web. Webapps. The web is the O/S. etc etc Downloadable, installable apps are a complete PITA. Who's going to care about downloadable software in the future???
    - dejb 17y ago
      I think the popularity of the app store shows that people do care about downloadable apps. It is a good thing that it takes the hassle out of the process. But this doesn't necessitate not allowing technologies such as flash to be installed. Or what if you wanted to use a different browser? With web apps latency will always be a limiting factor.
nuclear_eclipse 17y ago
Yes, we've had WinMo phones for longer than anyone else; we had them at least as far back as 2003, but smartphones in general never really caught on anywhere except with business people, until the iPhone came around and Jobs made it sound like he had invented the smartphone...
- dejb 17y ago
  Ok thanks. I do remember windows CE/Pocket PC phones being around from about 2003 as well. So my notion doesn't really explain it. I just don't get why everyone thinks Jobs invented the smartphone then?

by dejb 17y ago

axod 17y ago

Wake up call: average users don't give a damn if a phone can run arbitrary software.

dejb 17y ago
No just the particular software they want. Whatever they want. Why should anyone else be able to stop them? You don't agree with the concept of freedom axod? Who needs to wake up?
- axod 17y ago
  WWW. Freedom. The web. Webapps. The web is the O/S. etc etc Downloadable, installable apps are a complete PITA. Who's going to care about downloadable software in the future???
  - dejb 17y ago
    I think the popularity of the app store shows that people do care about downloadable apps. It is a good thing that it takes the hassle out of the process. But this doesn't necessitate not allowing technologies such as flash to be installed. Or what if you wanted to use a different browser? With web apps latency will always be a limiting factor.

nuclear_eclipse 17y ago

Yes, we've had WinMo phones for longer than anyone else; we had them at least as far back as 2003, but smartphones in general never really caught on anywhere except with business people, until the iPhone came around and Jobs made it sound like he had invented the smartphone...

dejb 17y ago
Ok thanks. I do remember windows CE/Pocket PC phones being around from about 2003 as well. So my notion doesn't really explain it. I just don't get why everyone thinks Jobs invented the smartphone then?