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They ask. Are you just supposed to lie or refuse to answer?

by tieTYT 13y ago

nostrademons 13y ago
Refuse to answer. It's none of their business, and nobody can compel you to answer a question.
- themodelplumber 13y ago
  "I don't have to answer that." They can't compel you to answer, but good luck landing that job.
  - WestCoastJustin 13y ago
    I have a hard time believing that if the employer is in desperate need, and a potential employee has the skills, they cannot come to an agreement, especially if you make it in for an interview. This does not make sense. Someone is not motivated enough.
    - themodelplumber 13y ago
      Who specified that either one of those conditions was true? If it's an example, let's be honest: If the employer is not desperate they may not respond well to being told that their question didn't pass muster. Real people who are struggling to find work are asked these questions, and real people are being discriminated against by not answering.
      - swang 13y ago
        You say, "I don't feel comfortable sharing that information" instead of the more hostile, "I don't have to answer that" One needs to consider it as offensive as, "Are you planning to have a child soon" or "How old are you" or, "You look real purty" Also if a company is going to invite you all the way to their office and use up their current employees' time, it would be a very stupid thing to not want an applicant just because they don't want to discuss their current salary.
- sokoloff 13y ago
  You're right, and that strategy works great for those of us who are in-demand. Someone in the article, or someone who took an interim lower-wage job out of desperation may rightly not feel quite so empowered.
- GoodIntentions 13y ago
  Look them straight in the eye and say "prison"
justrudd 13y ago
Refuse to answer. I do it all the time. I generally answer when asked "Let's see if we are a good fit for each other. If we are, make me an offer based on how much value you believe I'll bring to the table." If they keep pushing to know how much I make, that gives me a good data point on the type of company they are. I'll use that to decide whether I want to work there or not.
gbog 13y ago
You could tell your former position and add that you have done some gap filing in between four a few month, without telling the details.
6d0debc071 13y ago
"I'm currently considering a number of positions with competitive salaries [or 'with salaries around $X']. So, I think that focusing on what I can do for you and establishing a fair wage based on that will be more representative of what we can offer each other." That tends to be the route I go down anyway. At least when their position is good enough that I don't just walk out of the interview for someone being that rude, (i.e. I want to work with them for some other significant reason.)
nikatwork 13y ago
Valid dodging answers include: - I took a sabbatical - I did private/contract work for a while - I took a working holiday - I spent some time renovating my house - I took some time off to look after a sick relative Take the Jesuit line that if there is a kernel of truth in the statement (eg you fixed your gutters one time while unemployed) then you're not actually lying. Really, this HR obsession with "zomg a gap in employment history" is pointlessly stupid and deserves to be gamed.
- mcv 13y ago
  Absolutely. It doesn't matter much what your reason for the gap is, as long as you make it sound like something you were in control of. Something that you chose, based on your own life priorities. Don't sound like a victim.
- tieTYT 13y ago
  Actually I was asking about what you do when they ask how much you were PAID at your last/current job, not what to say when they ask why there's a GAP in your history. What do you say to that?
  - nikatwork 13y ago
    Ah, yes that's a tougher question. It's a red flag to me, but sometimes beggars can't be choosers. Here are some tested dodges: - "I don't think it's appropriate to discuss that" (be firm) - "I signed a non-disclosure agreement and I'm legally obliged to keep my renumeration details confidential" (needs confidence to work) I've caved once to this question when I really wanted the position. Luckily I told the truth because they demanded to see a payslip before I started. But if they play hardball like that in the interview, you can expect the same treatment throughout the company - don't kid yourself that things will change once you're employed.

They ask. Are you just supposed to lie or refuse to answer?

by tieTYT 13y ago

They ask. Are you just supposed to lie or refuse to answer?

nostrademons 13y ago

Refuse to answer. It's none of their business, and nobody can compel you to answer a question.

themodelplumber 13y ago
"I don't have to answer that." They can't compel you to answer, but good luck landing that job.
- WestCoastJustin 13y ago
  I have a hard time believing that if the employer is in desperate need, and a potential employee has the skills, they cannot come to an agreement, especially if you make it in for an interview. This does not make sense. Someone is not motivated enough.
  - themodelplumber 13y ago
    Who specified that either one of those conditions was true? If it's an example, let's be honest: If the employer is not desperate they may not respond well to being told that their question didn't pass muster. Real people who are struggling to find work are asked these questions, and real people are being discriminated against by not answering.
    - swang 13y ago
      You say, "I don't feel comfortable sharing that information" instead of the more hostile, "I don't have to answer that" One needs to consider it as offensive as, "Are you planning to have a child soon" or "How old are you" or, "You look real purty" Also if a company is going to invite you all the way to their office and use up their current employees' time, it would be a very stupid thing to not want an applicant just because they don't want to discuss their current salary.
sokoloff 13y ago
You're right, and that strategy works great for those of us who are in-demand. Someone in the article, or someone who took an interim lower-wage job out of desperation may rightly not feel quite so empowered.
GoodIntentions 13y ago
Look them straight in the eye and say "prison"

justrudd 13y ago

Refuse to answer. I do it all the time. I generally answer when asked "Let's see if we are a good fit for each other. If we are, make me an offer based on how much value you believe I'll bring to the table." If they keep pushing to know how much I make, that gives me a good data point on the type of company they are. I'll use that to decide whether I want to work there or not.

gbog 13y ago

You could tell your former position and add that you have done some gap filing in between four a few month, without telling the details.

6d0debc071 13y ago

"I'm currently considering a number of positions with competitive salaries [or 'with salaries around $X']. So, I think that focusing on what I can do for you and establishing a fair wage based on that will be more representative of what we can offer each other." That tends to be the route I go down anyway. At least when their position is good enough that I don't just walk out of the interview for someone being that rude, (i.e. I want to work with them for some other significant reason.)

nikatwork 13y ago

Valid dodging answers include: - I took a sabbatical - I did private/contract work for a while - I took a working holiday - I spent some time renovating my house - I took some time off to look after a sick relative Take the Jesuit line that if there is a kernel of truth in the statement (eg you fixed your gutters one time while unemployed) then you're not actually lying. Really, this HR obsession with "zomg a gap in employment history" is pointlessly stupid and deserves to be gamed.

mcv 13y ago
Absolutely. It doesn't matter much what your reason for the gap is, as long as you make it sound like something you were in control of. Something that you chose, based on your own life priorities. Don't sound like a victim.
tieTYT 13y ago
Actually I was asking about what you do when they ask how much you were PAID at your last/current job, not what to say when they ask why there's a GAP in your history. What do you say to that?
- nikatwork 13y ago
  Ah, yes that's a tougher question. It's a red flag to me, but sometimes beggars can't be choosers. Here are some tested dodges: - "I don't think it's appropriate to discuss that" (be firm) - "I signed a non-disclosure agreement and I'm legally obliged to keep my renumeration details confidential" (needs confidence to work) I've caved once to this question when I really wanted the position. Luckily I told the truth because they demanded to see a payslip before I started. But if they play hardball like that in the interview, you can expect the same treatment throughout the company - don't kid yourself that things will change once you're employed.