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this isn't true. it's 2013. women are having lots of sex, and they're on the internet. deal with it. it's just that all the women are banging the same 10-20

this isn't true. it's 2013. women are having lots of sex, and they're on the internet. deal with it. it's just that all the women are banging the same 10-20% of guys. the rest of the guys are not getting laid, except on rare occasion, or inside of relationships. sex is a pareto distributed market. long-term relationships / marriage are not.

xxhere 13y ago
woman here. this rings true. i have a female friend who did online dating, with the specific purpose of finding short term encounters. i would say she is an 8 on every guy's scale, a 10 on most. she went after very physically fit and intelligent guys, messaged them, never got a reply back.
- samstave 13y ago
  So what type of guy did she end up hooking up with? If the fit/intelligent profiles she contacted didnt reply... What were her results?
- xxhere 13y ago
  @samstave, I can't seem to reply to you, but to answer: nobody.
  - ScottWhigham 13y ago
    I'm not buying that a female "9" (on average apparently) went to a popular dating site, messaged a bunch of guys (even 9s themselves) and received no response. There's something else at play here that you aren't telling us or don't know. There are lots of possible reasons no one messaged her back: 1) She messaged only a few people (small sample size) 2) She messaged only people with older, inactive profiles 3) Her information lacked a picture 4) Her profile lacked key information 5) Her picture(s) were bad etc
    - bilbo0s 13y ago
      You forgot the most likely explanation: 6) All of the profiles for guys who are 9s that she messaged on those dating sites were fake. If a guy is a 9 or a 10, he rarely needs a dating site.
spindritf 13y ago
I accidentally downvoted you. You're right.
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olalonde 13y ago
> and they're on the internet. deal with it. Can we leave those memes on Reddit please? > it's just that all the women are banging the same 10-20% of guys. I don't think this is entirely true because most of the 10-20% men also have standards. They will not have sex with a lot of the less attractive women and those women are therefore not in the market for casual sex in any meaningful way (just like everyone who would like to own a Ferrari is not in the "market" for a Ferrari - pardon the dubious analogy). Furthermore, as someone else pointed out, what you claim would still only be true within the subset of women looking for casual sex which I am sure is smaller then the subset of men looking for casual sex. You don't see many "pickup artist" books on getting laid with the 10% men.
- xxhere 13y ago
  Everything you say makes sense, but here's the twist in my experience: women who can't get a Ferrari, don't get the next best car. The alternative to a top 10% man is a vibrator.
  - olalonde 13y ago
    Yes, that's exactly my point, couldn't have said it better (sorry if my analogy was misleading).
bilbo0s 13y ago
Hmm... That's not really how the "hook up" site scene works. It's a lot like swinger parties. 8's are with 8's, and 3's are with 3's. It's nigh impossible to make a 9 connect with a 3. And this goes both ways. The data testify to this on site after site. So it will be interesting to see if Pure can solve that problem. Put another way... the top .. say... 10% of men will DEFINITELY not be trying to connect with the bottom 50% of women. Or vice versa. It just hasn't worked that way for any other site. If a "hook up" site could solve that problem... they could make a MINT. There is a LOT of money in convincing the top 10% of guys to have relations with the bottom 50% of women. As mercenary as that sounds. It's just that no one has figured that out.

xxhere 13y ago

woman here. this rings true. i have a female friend who did online dating, with the specific purpose of finding short term encounters. i would say she is an 8 on every guy's scale, a 10 on most. she went after very physically fit and intelligent guys, messaged them, never got a reply back.

samstave 13y ago
So what type of guy did she end up hooking up with? If the fit/intelligent profiles she contacted didnt reply... What were her results?
xxhere 13y ago
@samstave, I can't seem to reply to you, but to answer: nobody.
- ScottWhigham 13y ago
  I'm not buying that a female "9" (on average apparently) went to a popular dating site, messaged a bunch of guys (even 9s themselves) and received no response. There's something else at play here that you aren't telling us or don't know. There are lots of possible reasons no one messaged her back: 1) She messaged only a few people (small sample size) 2) She messaged only people with older, inactive profiles 3) Her information lacked a picture 4) Her profile lacked key information 5) Her picture(s) were bad etc
  - bilbo0s 13y ago
    You forgot the most likely explanation: 6) All of the profiles for guys who are 9s that she messaged on those dating sites were fake. If a guy is a 9 or a 10, he rarely needs a dating site.

spindritf 13y ago

I accidentally downvoted you. You're right.

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olalonde 13y ago

> and they're on the internet. deal with it. Can we leave those memes on Reddit please? > it's just that all the women are banging the same 10-20% of guys. I don't think this is entirely true because most of the 10-20% men also have standards. They will not have sex with a lot of the less attractive women and those women are therefore not in the market for casual sex in any meaningful way (just like everyone who would like to own a Ferrari is not in the "market" for a Ferrari - pardon the dubious analogy). Furthermore, as someone else pointed out, what you claim would still only be true within the subset of women looking for casual sex which I am sure is smaller then the subset of men looking for casual sex. You don't see many "pickup artist" books on getting laid with the 10% men.

xxhere 13y ago
Everything you say makes sense, but here's the twist in my experience: women who can't get a Ferrari, don't get the next best car. The alternative to a top 10% man is a vibrator.
- olalonde 13y ago
  Yes, that's exactly my point, couldn't have said it better (sorry if my analogy was misleading).

bilbo0s 13y ago

Hmm... That's not really how the "hook up" site scene works. It's a lot like swinger parties. 8's are with 8's, and 3's are with 3's. It's nigh impossible to make a 9 connect with a 3. And this goes both ways. The data testify to this on site after site. So it will be interesting to see if Pure can solve that problem. Put another way... the top .. say... 10% of men will DEFINITELY not be trying to connect with the bottom 50% of women. Or vice versa. It just hasn't worked that way for any other site. If a "hook up" site could solve that problem... they could make a MINT. There is a LOT of money in convincing the top 10% of guys to have relations with the bottom 50% of women. As mercenary as that sounds. It's just that no one has figured that out.