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Just read what I pasted, there's no other logical way to interpret it. Having a long-term partner and a sex-hookup on the side, what is that if not cheating? If

Just read what I pasted, there's no other logical way to interpret it. Having a long-term partner and a sex-hookup on the side, what is that if not cheating? If they can't even get their PR blurb right I wonder how they're gonna manage the media shitstorm that's probably coming their way.

nawitus 13y ago
>Having a long-term partner and a sex-hookup on the side, what is that if not cheating? Cheating means "doing something which is not agreed upon". If both partners in a relationship agree to have a possibility of a 'sex-hookup', it's by definition not cheating.
inyourtenement 13y ago
That's an open relationship.
jlgreco 13y ago
I think you need to open your eyes to the diverse shapes and forms that human relationships can take. While what they are suggesting may seem to be categorically "cheating" to you, it is not to many others. I doubt a bunch of puritan talking heads on CNN complaining about this company will do anything but drive popularity among people who are not as disturbed by it as you. "Weathering that storm" should require nothing more than a "If you don't like it, don't use it" attitude. People who like it will use it anyway; they don't need to court the approval of the staunchly traditional.
- ScottWhigham 13y ago
  People who like it will use it anyway; they don't need to court the approval of the staunchly traditional. I think OP is talking about it not being accepted into the App Store w/ the language used. So if OP is right, people who like it and have an iDevice won't use it because they won't have access to it.
klibertp 13y ago
You're (your mentality is) one of the problems they are going against. Why would you call it cheating if both partners knew about it and agreed to it? You think it's impossible, or just "bad" in some sense? Many people here say things that are purely their belief about how the relationship they are in should function. It's ok, it just means that your not a target of this service. The problem starts when you stigmatize people who are and who would use it. You can't say that people are cheating on each other if all interested parties consent - but you did it anyway.
cliveowen 13y ago
First of all, I'm not disturbed by the app, I could care less what people (married or otherwise) do in their time. What I'm pointing out here is a failure in conveying the purpose of this whole venture, you don't cater to people who are searching for quick hookups talking about long-term relationships. If they decided to put that in there I surely hope there's a reason beyond just throwing words at a website without thinking and I highly doubt it was to cater to the very narrow niche of open couples. Also if you think you can just shrug off media's accusation of moral corruption and whatnot with a smartass attitude you're very naive and you fail to account to a whole series of fiascos that have sunk many a business before.
- SideburnsOfDoom 13y ago
  > you don't cater to people who are searching for quick hookups talking about long-term relationships Yes, you can. But it's a niche, of people who are in open relationships.
  - cliveowen 13y ago
    I think the problem here is that people are so eager to jump at someone’s throat that stop short of reading a whole comment. As I said I doubt they would cater to a niche so cramped as that of open couples, that would be suicidal business-wise. Maybe you’re all caught up with Californication or whatever it is that gets pushed on cable TV these days, that you fail to distinguish reality from fiction.
    - SideburnsOfDoom 13y ago
      "suicidal business-wise" is not the same thing as "fiction". It happens. I was talking to a female someone who feels that way a few days ago. Whether it happens enough to sustain a business strategy is another question, and not one that you or I really need to worry about.
- jlgreco 13y ago
  (I assume this is directed at me) > "What I'm pointing out here is a failure in conveying the purpose of this whole venture, you don't cater to people who are searching for quick hookups talking about long-term relationships" Sure you do. Particularly if you think that people in long-term relationships who are interested in quick hookups are an under-served market. Maybe you don't think that market is under-served, but frankly it doesn't matter much if you approve of them since you are clearly not in their target audience. Topical bingo seems like a weird thing to target but hey, am I going to tell patio11 that he's wrong? Of course not. > "Also if you think you can just shrug off media's accusation of moral corruption and whatnot with a smartass attitude you're very naive and you fail to account to a whole series of fiascos that have sunk many a business before." There are plenty of people who hate Grindr, and they do just fine. Hell, an even better example: Porn. There are countless people who disapprove loudly. It doesn't matter though, that industry does great. Sure, some countries ban porn, but do you really think that there is any danger that first-world countries will ban a service that facilitates consenting adults having sex? What is the worse case scenario here? CNN and my mother despise this company, while people like myself use it anyway? Broad societal approval is unnecessary in a free society.

nawitus 13y ago

>Having a long-term partner and a sex-hookup on the side, what is that if not cheating? Cheating means "doing something which is not agreed upon". If both partners in a relationship agree to have a possibility of a 'sex-hookup', it's by definition not cheating.

inyourtenement 13y ago

That's an open relationship.

jlgreco 13y ago

I think you need to open your eyes to the diverse shapes and forms that human relationships can take. While what they are suggesting may seem to be categorically "cheating" to you, it is not to many others. I doubt a bunch of puritan talking heads on CNN complaining about this company will do anything but drive popularity among people who are not as disturbed by it as you. "Weathering that storm" should require nothing more than a "If you don't like it, don't use it" attitude. People who like it will use it anyway; they don't need to court the approval of the staunchly traditional.

ScottWhigham 13y ago
People who like it will use it anyway; they don't need to court the approval of the staunchly traditional. I think OP is talking about it not being accepted into the App Store w/ the language used. So if OP is right, people who like it and have an iDevice won't use it because they won't have access to it.

klibertp 13y ago

You're (your mentality is) one of the problems they are going against. Why would you call it cheating if both partners knew about it and agreed to it? You think it's impossible, or just "bad" in some sense? Many people here say things that are purely their belief about how the relationship they are in should function. It's ok, it just means that your not a target of this service. The problem starts when you stigmatize people who are and who would use it. You can't say that people are cheating on each other if all interested parties consent - but you did it anyway.

cliveowen 13y ago

First of all, I'm not disturbed by the app, I could care less what people (married or otherwise) do in their time. What I'm pointing out here is a failure in conveying the purpose of this whole venture, you don't cater to people who are searching for quick hookups talking about long-term relationships. If they decided to put that in there I surely hope there's a reason beyond just throwing words at a website without thinking and I highly doubt it was to cater to the very narrow niche of open couples. Also if you think you can just shrug off media's accusation of moral corruption and whatnot with a smartass attitude you're very naive and you fail to account to a whole series of fiascos that have sunk many a business before.

SideburnsOfDoom 13y ago
> you don't cater to people who are searching for quick hookups talking about long-term relationships Yes, you can. But it's a niche, of people who are in open relationships.
- cliveowen 13y ago
  I think the problem here is that people are so eager to jump at someone’s throat that stop short of reading a whole comment. As I said I doubt they would cater to a niche so cramped as that of open couples, that would be suicidal business-wise. Maybe you’re all caught up with Californication or whatever it is that gets pushed on cable TV these days, that you fail to distinguish reality from fiction.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 13y ago
    "suicidal business-wise" is not the same thing as "fiction". It happens. I was talking to a female someone who feels that way a few days ago. Whether it happens enough to sustain a business strategy is another question, and not one that you or I really need to worry about.
jlgreco 13y ago
(I assume this is directed at me) > "What I'm pointing out here is a failure in conveying the purpose of this whole venture, you don't cater to people who are searching for quick hookups talking about long-term relationships" Sure you do. Particularly if you think that people in long-term relationships who are interested in quick hookups are an under-served market. Maybe you don't think that market is under-served, but frankly it doesn't matter much if you approve of them since you are clearly not in their target audience. Topical bingo seems like a weird thing to target but hey, am I going to tell patio11 that he's wrong? Of course not. > "Also if you think you can just shrug off media's accusation of moral corruption and whatnot with a smartass attitude you're very naive and you fail to account to a whole series of fiascos that have sunk many a business before." There are plenty of people who hate Grindr, and they do just fine. Hell, an even better example: Porn. There are countless people who disapprove loudly. It doesn't matter though, that industry does great. Sure, some countries ban porn, but do you really think that there is any danger that first-world countries will ban a service that facilitates consenting adults having sex? What is the worse case scenario here? CNN and my mother despise this company, while people like myself use it anyway? Broad societal approval is unnecessary in a free society.