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This is a bit irrational, but it nags me every time the occasional Meteor post shows up here - it seems to always get a lot of upvotes and very few comments: T

by recuter 13y ago

This is a bit irrational, but it nags me every time the occasional Meteor post shows up here - it seems to always get a lot of upvotes and very few comments: The Meteor blog goes back (under a different name) almost two years, that huge announcement thread is from 490 days ago, and they got VC funding over a year ago. I remember being pretty excited at the time but somehow this long wait for a 1.0 has taken the wind out of my sails. I don't mean to diminish all their hard work, and to be fair, there are frequent signs of life, but somehow it no longer captures the imagination. Am I the only one?

aioprisan 13y ago
What specifically doesn't capture your imagination? There is a very vibrant community behind meteor and lots of packages that to amazing things not included in the core meteor install itself at http://atmosphere.meteor.com http://atmosphere.meteor.com IMHO the 0.5.0 release could have been a 1.0, after auth and package support matured a bit.
- recuter 13y ago
  Unfortunately when you work from incomplete information you have to rely a bit on instincts and not totally rational feelings. Its just a vibe I got and I might be totally off base, so I had to sanity check here. (rglover made me feel a lot better about it) :) I've been subscribed to the newsletter all along and notice interesting things here and there but somehow haven't gotten around to diving in yet because its a very crowded field. There's a sort of continuum with Backbone and Angular/Ember or perhaps Node or Flask or more recently Go. Its easy to drown in all the choices, and as far as I know Meteor has no big websites/projects using it yet so it hasn't carved out a niche/identity in my mind yet.
  - aioprisan 13y ago
    I'm not sure that not having big sites come out and say that they're using Meteor is a huge detractor. In fact, many corporate products usually don't mention what platforms they're built on. At my previous company, we were using Meteor for a number of critical internal systems, which is where I picked it up from.
    - akbar501 13y ago
      IMO, the reference to large volume sites that use a product is an indicator that it can be scaled. Not that scaling a given solution was easy, but more that it can be done.
rglover 13y ago
I'm about a month away from releasing a production app, entirely written in Meteor. Don't let the sub 1.0 diminish your interest. The framework (as well as the core dev team and community) continue to impress me. It's really well written and I think what's different about how they do things comes down to quality. When the dev team puts out a release, you can trust that 99% (if not all) of what they're releasing works, and works really well. I'd much rather put my weight behind a team that paces themselves than rushes releases out the door just for press sake. Stay tuned, it's just going to keep getting better.
1qaz2wsx3edc 13y ago
As for upvotes and comments: I think it's because people are still excited about it, but cautious, I think most people are waiting for the big 1.0. That said, 0.6.4 is great, you can use it, it's stable, and it will allow you too express a lot with it. This release is also a big one, in terms of internals. 0.6.4.1 -> 0.6.5 is a huge jump: https://github.com/meteor/meteor/compare/release/0.6.4.1-rc3...master https://github.com/meteor/meteor/compare/release/0.6.4.1-rc3...
coffeemug 13y ago
I think the fact that these guys are taking their time to reach 1.0 is a good thing. Too many projects rush the "production-ready" label, and inevitably people end up getting stuck with bad technology that burns them. The fact that a project is taking their time to get this done is a vote of confidence. Also, you don't have to wait for 1.0. You can start using Meteor right now. Is there anything specific that you're waiting for?
dcw303 13y ago
I'm building a reactive issue tracker with Meteor. I've been very impressed with the framework, and with the community. I struggled with Angular and Ember for a while - just could not get their conceptual models to load in my head. Meteor is simple to understand, and that's really important if you need to build something quickly. Can't wait to get 0.6.5 running tonight!
shamrnews 13y ago
Hi, I'm currently writing a large Meteor app. I don't think you're being irrational at all, and I myself was under the impression Meteor would have hit v1 around a month ago. As it turns out, we're a long, long way off: https://trello.com/b/hjBDflxp/meteor-roadmap https://trello.com/b/hjBDflxp/meteor-roadmap I suspect that their 'galaxy' product is probably taking a lot of their time. Galaxy is their 'enterprise-grade, multi-tenant hosting environment for Meteor apps'. They are keeping it very hush hush at the moment.

by recuter 13y ago

aioprisan 13y ago

What specifically doesn't capture your imagination? There is a very vibrant community behind meteor and lots of packages that to amazing things not included in the core meteor install itself at http://atmosphere.meteor.com http://atmosphere.meteor.com IMHO the 0.5.0 release could have been a 1.0, after auth and package support matured a bit.

recuter 13y ago
Unfortunately when you work from incomplete information you have to rely a bit on instincts and not totally rational feelings. Its just a vibe I got and I might be totally off base, so I had to sanity check here. (rglover made me feel a lot better about it) :) I've been subscribed to the newsletter all along and notice interesting things here and there but somehow haven't gotten around to diving in yet because its a very crowded field. There's a sort of continuum with Backbone and Angular/Ember or perhaps Node or Flask or more recently Go. Its easy to drown in all the choices, and as far as I know Meteor has no big websites/projects using it yet so it hasn't carved out a niche/identity in my mind yet.
- aioprisan 13y ago
  I'm not sure that not having big sites come out and say that they're using Meteor is a huge detractor. In fact, many corporate products usually don't mention what platforms they're built on. At my previous company, we were using Meteor for a number of critical internal systems, which is where I picked it up from.
  - akbar501 13y ago
    IMO, the reference to large volume sites that use a product is an indicator that it can be scaled. Not that scaling a given solution was easy, but more that it can be done.

rglover 13y ago

I'm about a month away from releasing a production app, entirely written in Meteor. Don't let the sub 1.0 diminish your interest. The framework (as well as the core dev team and community) continue to impress me. It's really well written and I think what's different about how they do things comes down to quality. When the dev team puts out a release, you can trust that 99% (if not all) of what they're releasing works, and works really well. I'd much rather put my weight behind a team that paces themselves than rushes releases out the door just for press sake. Stay tuned, it's just going to keep getting better.

1qaz2wsx3edc 13y ago

As for upvotes and comments: I think it's because people are still excited about it, but cautious, I think most people are waiting for the big 1.0. That said, 0.6.4 is great, you can use it, it's stable, and it will allow you too express a lot with it. This release is also a big one, in terms of internals. 0.6.4.1 -> 0.6.5 is a huge jump: https://github.com/meteor/meteor/compare/release/0.6.4.1-rc3...master https://github.com/meteor/meteor/compare/release/0.6.4.1-rc3...

coffeemug 13y ago

I think the fact that these guys are taking their time to reach 1.0 is a good thing. Too many projects rush the "production-ready" label, and inevitably people end up getting stuck with bad technology that burns them. The fact that a project is taking their time to get this done is a vote of confidence. Also, you don't have to wait for 1.0. You can start using Meteor right now. Is there anything specific that you're waiting for?

dcw303 13y ago

I'm building a reactive issue tracker with Meteor. I've been very impressed with the framework, and with the community. I struggled with Angular and Ember for a while - just could not get their conceptual models to load in my head. Meteor is simple to understand, and that's really important if you need to build something quickly. Can't wait to get 0.6.5 running tonight!

shamrnews 13y ago

Hi, I'm currently writing a large Meteor app. I don't think you're being irrational at all, and I myself was under the impression Meteor would have hit v1 around a month ago. As it turns out, we're a long, long way off: https://trello.com/b/hjBDflxp/meteor-roadmap https://trello.com/b/hjBDflxp/meteor-roadmap I suspect that their 'galaxy' product is probably taking a lot of their time. Galaxy is their 'enterprise-grade, multi-tenant hosting environment for Meteor apps'. They are keeping it very hush hush at the moment.