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Respectfully, why not? Putting aside state regulation, what's your objection to recreational drug use? edit -- I'm pretty sure your second sentence appeared a

Respectfully, why not? Putting aside state regulation, what's your objection to recreational drug use? edit -- I'm pretty sure your second sentence appeared after I commented. In any event, I don't mean to put you out. Just curious.

mumbi 13y ago
I suspect a history of family related substance abuse. That usually does it.
- hillbillyjack 13y ago
  Though I suspect I'm not as strict as the parent comment this is why I avoid alcohol. Father's side extremely alcoholic including several deaths (both liver failure/pancreatic, and alcohol related deaths). I've never had more than 1 drink in a day and usually only drink once per month out to eat when someone else is driving. Alcoholism is scary for most of us that have seen it up close.
- reustle 13y ago
  Both my mother and father have always been pretty dry. My father has maybe 2-3 beers a month, and my mother one mixed drink every 2 months. I've not had any bad experiences at a close personal level with alcoholism.
  - mumbi 13y ago
    Then I suspect it's just being raised in a very healthy environment ;)
smsm42 13y ago
I think decision of avoiding certain or all drugs makes total sense, if the person has no interest in their effects and is not ready to suffer inevitable side effects of doing things that our body is not meant to do normally. Hacking one's body often has its costs.
- VLM 13y ago
  "doing things that our body is not meant to do normally." The reason it doesn't outright kill you is an enormous amount of evolution to occasionally consume "somewhat overripe fruit". That doesn't mean you're evolved to chug grain alcohol like water, or get drunk every night like the goof in the article, it just means your body is quite very well used to handling a bit of fermented grapes once in awhile. Hacking one's body, is like eating non-human food like grains or potatoes or beans or artificial sweeteners / colors / flavors.
  - smsm42 13y ago
    Human body is a very resilient thing, so it can withstand some abuse for a prolonged time (and some bodies are extremely resilient, read this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Malloy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Malloy). But it all takes its toll at the end...
    - PhantomGremlin 13y ago
      Everyone, that is a must read!!! Amazing. Of course, it's Wikipedia, so who knows if it's true ... but amazing nonetheless.
      - teddyh 13y ago
        What a veiled FUD. If you doubt the text, check the references.
    - mpyne 13y ago
      Well in fairness the article wasn't joking about there being studies that indicate there may be health benefits to drinking in moderation (as opposed to complete alcohol abstinence). So if you're teetotaling only to be "healthy" then you may not be making the right choice.
  - munificent 13y ago
    > get drunk every night like the goof in the article The author didn't say he gets drunk every night, he said he drinks every night. I have a beer or a glass of wine with dinner most nights. I get drunk (i.e. have more than one drink, feel drunk, feel worse the next morning) with a much lower frequency.
reustle 13y ago
I don't drink because I don't feel the need to. Simple as that. It has forced me to develop that "social lubricant" internally which people use as the most common reason for drinking. And for dealing with stress, I think sweeping it under the rug (even a little bit, or temporarily) is not the right way to handle things. I have heard so many reasons over the years, none of them have convinced me. As you can see in my other replies in this thread, this doesn't have anything to do with personal experiences with family alcoholism. I'm also OK with recreational drug use for the most part. You're free to do whatever you please on your own time, as long as it doesn't affect me. I don't feel any better than someone because I don't drink and they do, that would be silly. That's just about everyone.

mumbi 13y ago

I suspect a history of family related substance abuse. That usually does it.

hillbillyjack 13y ago
Though I suspect I'm not as strict as the parent comment this is why I avoid alcohol. Father's side extremely alcoholic including several deaths (both liver failure/pancreatic, and alcohol related deaths). I've never had more than 1 drink in a day and usually only drink once per month out to eat when someone else is driving. Alcoholism is scary for most of us that have seen it up close.
reustle 13y ago
Both my mother and father have always been pretty dry. My father has maybe 2-3 beers a month, and my mother one mixed drink every 2 months. I've not had any bad experiences at a close personal level with alcoholism.
- mumbi 13y ago
  Then I suspect it's just being raised in a very healthy environment ;)

smsm42 13y ago

I think decision of avoiding certain or all drugs makes total sense, if the person has no interest in their effects and is not ready to suffer inevitable side effects of doing things that our body is not meant to do normally. Hacking one's body often has its costs.

VLM 13y ago
"doing things that our body is not meant to do normally." The reason it doesn't outright kill you is an enormous amount of evolution to occasionally consume "somewhat overripe fruit". That doesn't mean you're evolved to chug grain alcohol like water, or get drunk every night like the goof in the article, it just means your body is quite very well used to handling a bit of fermented grapes once in awhile. Hacking one's body, is like eating non-human food like grains or potatoes or beans or artificial sweeteners / colors / flavors.
- smsm42 13y ago
  Human body is a very resilient thing, so it can withstand some abuse for a prolonged time (and some bodies are extremely resilient, read this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Malloy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Malloy). But it all takes its toll at the end...
  - PhantomGremlin 13y ago
    Everyone, that is a must read!!! Amazing. Of course, it's Wikipedia, so who knows if it's true ... but amazing nonetheless.
    - teddyh 13y ago
      What a veiled FUD. If you doubt the text, check the references.
  - mpyne 13y ago
    Well in fairness the article wasn't joking about there being studies that indicate there may be health benefits to drinking in moderation (as opposed to complete alcohol abstinence). So if you're teetotaling only to be "healthy" then you may not be making the right choice.
- munificent 13y ago
  > get drunk every night like the goof in the article The author didn't say he gets drunk every night, he said he drinks every night. I have a beer or a glass of wine with dinner most nights. I get drunk (i.e. have more than one drink, feel drunk, feel worse the next morning) with a much lower frequency.

reustle 13y ago

I don't drink because I don't feel the need to. Simple as that. It has forced me to develop that "social lubricant" internally which people use as the most common reason for drinking. And for dealing with stress, I think sweeping it under the rug (even a little bit, or temporarily) is not the right way to handle things. I have heard so many reasons over the years, none of them have convinced me. As you can see in my other replies in this thread, this doesn't have anything to do with personal experiences with family alcoholism. I'm also OK with recreational drug use for the most part. You're free to do whatever you please on your own time, as long as it doesn't affect me. I don't feel any better than someone because I don't drink and they do, that would be silly. That's just about everyone.